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Christ in the Workplace

Says You: How does your faith impact your work outside the home?
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During research on Catholic women who work, I came across this USCCB report on women’s spirituality in the workplace.

Women from 17 dioceses in urban, rural and mixed settings report on the challenges and joys of work outside the home.

They find joy in helping people through their work—whether their own families because of the income they bring in, or because the nature of their work itself helps others.

They also report on their struggles: the difficulty in finding time for personal prayer, the feeling at times that their work is not valued, the effort to see Christ in difficult colleagues or clients.

In some lines of work women also report wrestling with the demoralizing effect of being witnesses to wickedness or challenges posed to their faith and morals by unethical practices. These women worry a lot about how to radiate Christ in sometimes hostile environments.

That got me thinking.

Stay-at-home moms have a reliable sounding board here for people who don’t value their motherhood or have impertinent things to say about their family size, whatever it is.

I’d like to hear what the moms who work outside the home wish people understood about their lifestyle.

What do you love about your work? In what way is it fulfilling?

What is most challenging for you about work outside the home: time management, challenges to your principles, behaving charitably with high-maintenance personalities? Something else?

What thoughtless remarks about your lifestyle could you live without?


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Most of my colleagues are pretty supportive of my lifestyle (to my face, anyway).  The biggest challenge I face in having a job outside the home is that it takes away from family time.  But I guess that is inevitable.  I just try to look on the bright side that now I only have to work 15 hours/week, as opposed to working fulltime which I did when my son was a baby. 

There are ethical issues as well.  I’m a nurse at a health insurance company, and occasionally I have to answer questions about coverage for birth control, etc.  I just answer them matter of fact: this is what is covered.  I don’t get into the ethical side of it (if I did, I would lose my job).  Luckily the account I work on doesn’t cover IVF, so I never have to get involved with that.

 

Claire,
Just an FYI (my niece is a nurse, too), you might be interested in the National Association of Pro-Life Nurses: http://www.nursesforlife.org/
God bless!

 

Thanks Patricia, I think I remember seeing this mentioned on EWTN.  I definitely need to check it out.

 

My biggest challenge is self-care and as an off-shoot, having the time and energy to take care of my husband. Fortunately we both usually roll with the punches and realize when one or both of us are grumpy, that it will get better. I fell like I am on the other side of the mountain coming down. My boys are 16 and 11. I have a little more Mom-guilt now because my 11 YO spends a lot of time by himself. It bothers me more than it bothers him. He is resourceful and is becoming quite the experimental cook.

At my last job, I enjoyed occasional theological discussions with some Protestant co-workers. It made me research exactly what the catechism said about a particular topic. I fell as if I have been reasonable well-supported by other Mom’s at school and I have tried to be supportive of those Mom’s who do not work outside the home, especially those who volunteer a lot of their time at school.

 

The biggest challenge I’ve experienced is the culture of death that prevades the workplace in so many ways, especially in supporting motherhood and the responsibilities that come with it (and as it could impede performance).

I am in the military and my contract runs through next year. Therefore, I haven’t had the option of leaving my job as other moms might during their pregnancy or after maternity leave if they decide they don’t want to go back. For the most part the supervisors I have encountered expect you to bear children only when it is convenient for the organization, and if not convenient they expect you to ‘control’ it through other means. The same goes with existing family and children; your family responsibilities and children should not get in the way of your work at any time. If you become pregnant at an inconvenient time, many peers and supervisors alike assume you are trying to shirk on duties or ‘get out of’ a deployment, which is highly frowned upon. If your child is sick and the daycare calls you to pick him or her up, many supervisors will require you to enact your family care plan, i.e. get someone else who is willing at the drop of your hat to take your child so your responsibilities at work are not affected. Luckily, most of my supervisors have been more lenient in this area and recognize that in some situations, children really need their parents instead of a pseudo stranger.

Being that my 2 kids at home are 14 months apart, I’ve endured the most challenge and hostility at the times I am expecting or directly after my children were born, getting comments such as “you’re popping out kids like the Easter bunny pops out candy” and “you know how to prevent that for the next deployment, right?” And I admit, there was a time where I would cave to their mentality and become distraught at even the idea of some coworkers seeing me pregnant. It was hard to follow church teaching with my heart, trusting God’s purpose when our NFP ‘failed’ (or in God’s eyes, worked). It was even more difficult to convince myself that God’s plan mattered far more than what others thought of me.

But after my second pregnancy, my endometriosis became extremely aggressive and we decided that we would indeed trust God, and ask for another child despite others’ opinions. It was only after disclosing my struggle, all the doctors’ predictions, and suffering a miscarriage that I saw any support from supervisors, but was thankful just the same for it. At the time, I almost felt that I deserved the miscarriage in a way because I had been selfish in not wanting to face hostility in the workplace again and had to ‘convince’ myself to be happy about being pregnant. I wanted only the perks, not the persecution. After a second pregnancy loss I finally came to terms with the fact that I would truly put God’s will at the forefront. I am now expecting again and have approached it with as much joy as I can muster, and even though I sometimes dread the thought of seeing certain people when I am visibly showing, I have rehearsed answers about God’s blessings and grace in the even I encounter a scrooge, and remind myself constantly that I cannot control the situation, only my reaction.

Nursing was also difficult in the sense that it was supported but there are very few places available to pump at work (except in a dirty bathroom stall with a manual pump) and I had to be able to enforce my own breaks. Being a dominantly male population actually helped at times, though, because some would cringe the first time after asking where I was going (and then never brought it up again)!

The most difficult, by far though, have been the training periods when I have been required to be separated from my children for a week, or month, or longer (especially while nursing). But in those moments I have also drawn so much closer to God knowing that he will provide for my family even when I can’t, and that no criticism I have ever endured can put a damper on the absolute blessings of my beautiful angels in my life!

In the mean time, I have learned much about the person I need to be simply by working for this organization. I’ve learned that I need to work hard to channel God though my actions and positive attitude even in an organization or situation I dislike, especially considering the many wonderful people who are a part of it. I’ve also used my struggles with fertility to try to share options for life, such as natural methods and organizations to treat infertility (as it comes up in conversation quite a bit, believe it or not). I’ve learned to draw strength from the sacraments, especially when I am tired and overwhelmed and their is more work to be done than my husband and I have time for. I’ve seen what an incredible man my husband is when sharing (or taking more than his fair share) of the workload at home when I am pregnant, even though he has just as much to do at work during the day. And I’m thankful for what a rock this community is to rely on, for all you wonderful people who remind me that God is all-powerful, all-giving, and in control no matter what!

 

Just want to say thank you to Megan for your sacrifice.  I can’t imagine how hard it must be to have to be away from your kids at times, but what a positive example you are setting for them by taking on this enormous responsibility for our country.

 

Megan,

I can understand your struggle not because I have been there but a woman close to me is high up in the chain of command in the military.  She is a devout Catholic and uses NFP.  She is remarkable good at what she does and has earned her rank.  She does find the military hostile to family life and women.  She makes it a point to instill in those who she commands the importance of their spouse and family life.  I’m really proud of her with the difference she makes in promoting family life.  I hope you can find the right connections in your work—ones that will be supportive.

 

Megan, you are completely awesome. I really admire you.

 

Adding as well to Megan…thank you for your service to our country and your sacrifice which your reply so ably describes… I hope you know that many women, many Americans appreciate it more than words can say ... I will pray for you and your family

 

Megan, hang in there.  I was active duty military for 5 years and struggled too.  I’m sorry you face the struggles and I wish I had more to offer, but you will be in my prayers.  Thank you for your continual sacrifice (both for our country and your family), it is not going unnoticed!

 

Thanks, all, for the comments and support. I don’t feel as though my job is anything particularly ‘noble,’ though—I sit at a desk all day, not too glamorous! And I can say with certainty that my life has not been at risk, so to speak. But please keep up the prayers for my dear friends and all others deployed right now who are in harm’s way!

I agree with Sparki777’s sentiments below…I think I went on a bit of a vent session, so apologies to those on the recieving end (but it was indeed cathardic)! And also say a prayer for all the other professional women out there who do far more than I do in my position by are never recognized enough—teachers, first responders and medical professionals, as well as all those women slaving away at home all day with no one to recognize their hard work!

 

Please do not glorify me as a working mother because I’d rather be home.  I work because my husband can not. Christ has a plan.  I use my work to spread Christ in a psychiatric setting.  My coworkers jeer me in front of others about my faith but privately ask me questions such as how can they make their marriage last, will I pray for them,whats so wrong with abortion, how do I stay awake in a Catholic mass, am I becoming a nun because I’m going on retreat,etc.
My prayer life is easier because I have to have a routine. My life is not as flexible.  My life depends much more on Christ. I don’t have the luxury of being home so I have much more to offer up!
I’ve come across stay at home Catholic mothers who were very judgemental about what I can’t do because I’m working. These are the people who I most wanted support from.
God is so good!  He gives us working mothers hugs( but can squeeze a bit hard. smile

 

I work full-time as a physician and my husband stays home with our children and homeschools them.  I love my job, it’s very flexible, and I am able to be home for almost all dinners, soccer games, and play rehearsals.  My husband is flexible enough that if I do need to stay late for an emergency, he doesn’t give me a hard time about it (though I admit I do still feel guilty).

I hope that I have been able to challenge some assumptions that people in my workplace have/had about what a socially conservative, religious woman looks like.  We have plenty of heated political debates in the office, and they know where I stand on life issues even though contraception and reproductive technologies are not an issue in our practice.  Everyone has been respectful of my beliefs (although they challenge them plenty in discussion).  The only time it’s been awkward is when I get pregnant- you can hear them rolling their eyes- another maternity leave?  Luckily, the PC police are so heavy handed that I think they’re afraid of a workplace discrimination lawsuit if they say too much in that regard!

Ironically, the most negative and hurtful comments I’ve received have been from other mothers in our Catholic community.  Of course I’m not able to participate in daytime activities like bible studies or afternoon playgroups and so it’s been hard to get to know other families.  When we participate in evening or weekend events, it’s been hard for my kids and I to break into conversation- the groups feel very “clique-y”.  I’ve heard numerous comments like, “Oh, I could NEVER leave my kids all day!  I think I’d die!” or “Well, we discerned that my staying home with the children is more important than a big paycheck,” implying that I work in order to fund a lavish lifestyle of kitchen remodels and seaside vacations.  Others have been stunned to discover that we practice NFP (Oh!  But I thought you used abc… since you are a doctor… and you don’t have a vanful of kids….).

This reason alone- the isolation that I often feel amidst the wonderfully orthodox families at our parish- makes me sometimes wish that I were the stay at home parent.  My husband does not make me feel this way, nor any perceived lack of time with my kids, nor moral struggles at work- but the loneliness.

 

Bananalover, it’s a shame that people in your parish have treated you this way.  I don’t know how they could find fault with the fact that your children are cared for by their father when you’re at work!  When my son was a baby, my husband was his primary caregiver, and he thrived under this arrangement (I didn’t, but that’s a different story).  I can’t understand how anyone could object to that.

 

What do you love about your work? In what way is it fulfilling? I love my job because this is the first time that I have had a job which does value family and doesn’t make me feel horrible if I need time off because my son is sick. I had my second son five months ago and my work was very supportive.

What is most challenging for you about work outside the home: time management, challenges to your principles, behaving charitably with high-maintenance personalities? Something else? I have to say that since I had my second child things have become more hectic, and I have to be more organized than ever. On a more positive note I have decided to slow down and weekends have become family time. I don’t want to do anything else that does not fit into having time with my family.

What thoughtless remarks about your lifestyle could you live without? The one that upsets me the most is “I don’t care about my children because I am not a stay at home mom.”, or people who make me feel that I am a horrible mom for leaving my children.  I love my family and if I could to be quite honest I would stay home and take care of my boys but this is not possible. My boys are my number one priority and because I work outside the home I make sure that I show my love to my children every single day.

 

What do you love about your work? In what way is it fulfilling?
Since I work at a Catholic school there are not too many challenges regarding my principles.  Behaving charitably towards others is an attribute we teach in school, so that is not too much of a problem.  Time management is a big concern for me, because I would like to have to be more organized , and have a neater, cleaner house.  This has been a terribly stressful year in particular because of some family situations that occurred and I wish I could have stayed home to take care of them more thoroughly.
I have 5 children, only 2 who are at home right now, and I am always hearing remarks about how it is soooooo expensive having children, especially when they go off to college, get married etc.  I know it is expensive. You don’t have to remind me. 
This is off topic a little but I have one pet peeve about certain working parents. Not all. Just a very few.  If your child is sick please keep them home from school.  WE don’t want their germs and we don’t want to have to call you to pick them up like we usually do, and then have them wait over an hour for someone to pick them up. I did that twice today, and my heart was breaking.

 

I work full time in the software industry, and my husband stays home during the day (he’s a musician, works mostly weekends).  We have 2 special needs children (ages 5 and 3) and a 20 month old baby. 
My job allows us to have access to great insurance benefits and to afford expensive therapies that our children need.
I enjoy very much what I do, and I know my children are being loved and challenged by their therapist while I work, and my baby is being cared for by Daddy.
Everyone at work is very nice, of course with very different backgrounds and beliefs, I’ve always been outspoken pro-life and most of my co-workers know my kids personally (they are a living statement of the value of any life).
They jokingly call me a ‘nun’ because I go to daily mass on my lunch break, but then they privately ask me about going to confession or recommending a marriage retreat.
What hurts me the most is actually outside of work, when I hear stay at home Mom’s comment how I must not care enough for my children to stay at home (not in those exact words, but that is how it feels).
Huge blessings that allow me to stay on track: My husband!, My church, This forum, and My women’s group which has created a meeting time in the evening so that I can attend our weekly meetings.

 

I don’t love my job. I work in advertising, a career I entered well before I was either a Christian or a mom. Most of the time, it seems silly and fruitless. 

I wish I had done something more noble, like the other moms above. If I could go back in time, I would tell Younger Me, “Listen, there will come a day that your grandmother dies or maniacs crash planes into the World Trade Center and you’re still going to have to have that ad about fertilizer done and to the client by 2 p.m. Can you really live with that?”

I’ve tried to change my profession numerous times, but I keep ending up back in it.  I don’t have the skill set to make a living at anything else and I can’t afford to go back to school. And my husband has either been changing careers himself or recovering a brain injury or going back to school (he’ll get his teaching certificate in 2 months!). I’ve been the primary breadwinner for our entire marriage and the sole breadwinner for a good portion of it. I can’t support my family on a starting wage or sewing or babysitting or writing children’s books, but I can in advertising. So there you go.

I don’t mean to sound bitter or angry (though I’ve felt that way at times). I’m mostly embarrassed. In terms of “trustworthiness”, people in advertising rank right down there with used car salesmen and politicians. I left my tiny infants with babysitter for THIS? Granted, the babysitter was their godmother who loves them almost as much as I do, but still.

What’s fulfilling? Got me. Sure, I get a happy feeling when a client reports “We’ve sold 20% more thanks to you.” But that’s not fulfilling. What’s fulfilling is what my kids accomplish in terms of education or art or music or stopping a bully at school or overcoming their fears and trying something new—things they accomplish largely without me, because I’m working/commuting 50 hours a week or more.

Challenges: I am fortunate that I am very rarely challenged on principles any more because I have learned to choose my employer carefully. That’s an enormous blessing in this business, and I am so grateful to God for it. Getting home with enough energy to parent my kids - or at least engage them in conversation - is a challenge. Time management is a challenge. Finding time to take care of my personal health is a challenge. Keeping the household going is a challenge - how do other mothers do it?!?!? Even with my husband’s help and the kids pitching in (now that they are all old enough), the last time my house was totally clean was right after the hired cleaners came before we moved in. I can’t afford a housekeeper. We live paycheck to paycheck, and our only extra is parochial school for the kids. 

I have had a few issues of faith at work, and I just try to be a consistent witness. I am open about my faith when it comes up. Had a great conversation with a “former Catholic” during a business trip…encouraged a young woman who’d been away from the Church to return when she told me she was thinking about it after her grandfather died. Of course there are the couples living together without marriage and the young woman who promotes IVF because she was a test-tube baby herself (still puzzling over how to speak the truth on that one without making her feel like I wish she’d never been born). Maybe these conversations are why God hasn’t rescued me from this silly profession yet. At least, that’s what I keep holding onto.

Thoughtless remarks about my lifestyle: There was the lady at Target who told me my baby wouldn’t be so fat if I would just stay home and breastfeed. (My answer: “He’s never tasted formula. This is all me.”) My mother-in-law has inspected dust-bunnies, then treated me to a weak smile with a “I don’t know how you keep up.” (“I can’t. I could use some help.” - I promptly ignored.)  There have been more than one stay-at-home mom who has purred, “I just couldn’t do it - leave my kid to go off to some job.” (“Yeah, it’s awful. I wouldn’t do it if I didn’t have to.”) I don’t like the, “You look exhausted” comments but I try to tell myself it’s an offering of sympathy. And then there’s the old, “What’s wrong with your husband?” sort of comments (Please note, “Brain injury. What’s wrong with yours?” doesn’t go over so well. I had to apologize.)

But thanks for asking. Nobody ever has before. It’s been sort of cathartic to get it all out. Sorry for taking up so much room.

 

Sparki, I’m really sorry for the challenges you’re experiencing in your situation.  Have you ever heard of St. Jose Maria Eschriva?  He was a 20th century saint who taught about sanctifying one’s work.  Basically, he believed that any work could become holy, even if it didn’t appear to be a noble profession.  As long as you are ethical in your work, it can glorify God.  You are using your intelligence and creativity to do a good job, and you’re a witness to those you come in contact with.  Furthermore, you’re using your talents to support your family, which is a huge sacrifice since you would rather have more time with them.  I totally understand that you would rather glorify God in other ways, but for whatever reason, he wants you where you are now.  By the way, I am really impressed that you managed to exclusively breastfeed, despite working fulltime outside the home!

 

Claire, thanks so much for your encouraging words, which made me cry. I’ll look up St. Jose Maria Eschriva,  thanks.

 

I work full-time in communications, but used to work even more hours as a reporter. I have 4 kids and my husband is in the Navy.

Quite frankly, the hardest part for me is the judgement from other Catholics. Working motherhood, even if you could survive without the pay cheque, is NOT a sin! There is nothing wrong or perverse about enjoying my profession while having a large family.

I find everyone loves to hold up St. Gianna as an example of perfect motherhood, while ignoring the fact she was a working mother with 4 children. I love St. Gianna, she is my mentor and true friend. She proves you can love your profession, do it as a service to God but also because it is your passion, and not be a bad mother. In fact, you can be a saintly mother.

 

I absolutely love my job. I work in academic research (theology) and I am currently researching/writing primarily about vocation - broadly understood, how we are all called by God in different ways - and how parishes/congregations can help people to explore how God is calling in their lives. The work is fulfilling not just because it allows me to use the gifts that God has given me, but because it addresses an important need in the church and the world today. I truly feel called to work outside of mothering, and despite the challenges this brings, I find that God’s grace sustains me through the difficult times. To me, this is an affirmation of vocation (both to mothering and to my other work).
Time management is the most challenging part of working outside the home (although I can do lots of my work from my home “office”). I am constantly feeling stretched between the demands of child-rearing, pregnancy, house work, homemaking, as well as all the demands of my job. But I find that my friends who are stay-at-home moms feel just as stretched, busy, and over-worked. I have had to get much more organized than my type-B personality would like in order to keep things running at home during my absences, but in some ways I know this is God helping me to grow. Finding excellent, reliable child care is sometimes a challenge as well: occasionally we have had great situations change suddenly because of situations beyond our control with the caregivers, and it is very hard to be left in the lurch for child care. It’s especially hard when you don’t need full-time care (I work 25 hours/week) because you often have to pay a lot more - often the equivalent of full-time care - for part-time slots in day care or to have a nanny in your home. But both my husband and I see this as an important investment for our family, so we cut back in other areas to make the budget work. He is very supportive of my work because he sees that it is a true vocation for me, and he sees how it honestly makes me a better at-home mother when I can balance this time with work away. I know this isn’t the case for all moms, but it really is for me.
I could do without the following thoughtless comments about my lifestyle: “Oh, I could never leave my child/ren with a babysitter. I’m REALLY picky about who I leave my kids with.” Which, unintentionally but obviously, implies that I would let anyone who can fog a mirror watch my kids? wink Not so much. I’ve also gotten a fair share of comments about how kids deserve to have a full-time parent around 24/7 during the young years. I think that my children will benefit from seeing how my husband and I negotiate working out both of our careers, caring for our family above all and sacrificing for each other.

 

I am an OB GYN. I quit my private practice job when my oldest was 4 and my second was 2 and stayed at home for a year and a half. My husband is in the same field and was doing a fellowship to specialize and I had to work to pay the bills during his fellowship. The last year of it during my son’s first year of life one of us was gone on call 1 out of 3 nights. I don’t remember anything b/w my son’s birth and making his first birthday cake; it was miserable. The year I stayed home was so much better! Then I got an offer to work half time with no call which is grat but I still wish I was home. I have 3 kids now and I can’t devote sustained attention to them or to my job bc I don’t do either full time. Add in adult ADD and you have ones mom on a hamster wheel!
As far as my faith I have a huge pic of the Virgin of the Lilies and a small one of Our Lady of Guadalupe in my office and wear a Miraculous Medal. I work for a state medical school so we have to be very PC ; for instance one of our coworkers is a Jehovah’s Witness who doesn’t celebrate religious holidays birthdays etc so we avoid having office lunches for Christmas etc and just make them “no reason” lunches.

 

Angela, that’s awesome that you found a part time job without call!  And I admire you for loving and valuing the time that you were home fulltime with your kids.  A lot of people in highly skilled professions like yours would be reluctant to give that up to stay home fulltime.  I’m a nurse, and I have a really nice job situation right now (very part time, work when my husband’s home with our son, good pay, etc).  But even so, I would prefer to be home fulltime if money were no object.  But I try not to complain, because I know I am so blessed to have such a great situation.

 

I’m a public school teacher, and have been for over a decade.  It’s a remarkably fulfilling and exhausting job.  Spirituality comes into my work in many ways: I can’t talk about faith in the classroom, obviously, but I try to teach my students not just academic subjects, but also life skills like honesty, understanding others’ perspectives, listening, compassion, etc.

Toughest part of my job: being in a profession where you give all the time, in ways that are big and little—and then go home and give more to my own children.  Sometimes I feel like my own kids are getting the “leftovers” of me, so to speak.  Thank goodness for summer!

Thoughtless comments: don’t get me started.  (Don’t we all know that teachers are done work at three??!??  Yes, I’m being sarcastic!  smile)  Ah, if they could see the stacks of grading that I haul home! 

Also, this is a particularly tough time to be a teacher because of the political rhetoric and the legislation that is being introduced in many states (Wisconsin, for one).  The way some politicians talk, it makes it sounds as if teachers and teachers’ unions are just there to enable incompetent people to drain the system.  I cannot tell you how frustrating that is when you work SO hard in a job that doesn’t pay well to begin with, and then have to put up with people who say things that make you sound like some social parasite who is just leeching off the system.  Overall, I think it would be nice to have people live the life of a teacher for a day, just to see what it is really like.  Wouldn’t that be a great reality TV show?!?!

 

Wow- what inspiring women responding here!!! 

What do I love about my work/how is it fulfilling-
I discerned my career as an uncatechized teenager.  I truly believe God led me into teaching and eventually into the school I teach because the women there taught me how to be a mother.  I have a wonderful mother who provided everything she could while she battled depression.  The women I’ve encountered in my 16 years of working helped me be a happy, functional, whole mother.  Knowing it is the place the Holy Spirit has led me, makes it fulfilling.  God took something broken (me) and put it in a place of healing. 

What are the challenges?

I’ve had to learn the hard way not to run around like a chicken with my head chopped off.  I just don’t anymore.  What gets done, gets done, what doesn’t, doesn’t.  I find myself becoming increasingly dependent on God to fulfill me, not the fact that everything is clean, neat, orderly, prepared, folded, etc. 

My biggest challenge is myself.  It’s taken me a long time to accept that this is my vocation, not God’s back up plan for me.  After discovering this blog and others like it, I loved reading about happy, fulfilled stay at home moms (I didn’t know many:(  ).  After a while, I started feeling like my decision to work (when I found out I was pregnant, my husband said, “Do you want to stay home or should I?”- my whole body screamed, “YOU”) was a mistake. I am marginal in Catholic culture.  It’s painful to be marginal.  But, Christ ministered mostly to the marginal.  And, by being marginal, I can do the same because I work directly with others who are marginalized.  I view myself as a missionary in American culture.  God has called me to this vocation and it’s not any less important than the beautiful, large, homeschooling families.  I just have to swallow my pride, be willing to be a little different and follow the Lord’s plan for my life. 

Thanks for asking Rebecca.  Everyone will be in my prayers!

 

What do you love about your work? In what way is it fulfilling?
I find work outside the home fulfilling because it’s something I know I do well.  There’s so much room for doubt as a mother/homemaker and always a feeling that there’s just so much more to do.  At work, I know I do my job well and my supervisors and coworkers appreciate me for it.  (I know I’m very forutnate to be appreciated at my job!)

What is most challenging for you about work outside the home: time management, challenges to your principles, behaving charitably with high-maintenance personalities? Something else? 
Working part time (30 hours in 3 days) is a challenge for me because I feel like I am always struggling to succeed in both my roles as a mom and an employee.  Work days are long and hard and home days are long and hard.  There’s no room for rest!
When kids are sick or if there’s a snow day, it’s always a hard conversation with my husband about who will stay home. 
Also, working in a large hospital in Boston, I feel that I need to keep my personal beliefs to myself.  I am expected to embrace healthcare reform and embryonic stem cell research without question.  It’s a constant struggle for me to want to speak up but be afraid.  It’s something I’m truly ashamed of.  I work some very brilliant people who think they are very altrustic and open-minded, but they are really ignorant and shut off to so much good.   

What thoughtless remarks about your lifestyle could you live without?
I am not “out” as a devout Catholic at work.  My coworkers know that I am Catholic and my kids go to Catholic school, but probably think I don’t go along with all of that crazy Catholic stuff. 
Some coworkers questioned whether I planned to get pregnant again and some thought it was helpful to remind me how tired I was last time I came back from leave—thanks for the support!

I find it interesting and so sad that many working moms feel shunned by other stay at home moms.  In my community, so many more moms are working than are not so I don’t see that as an issue.  I think we’re all doing the best that we can and need to support each other!!!  I am greatful for this site and the supportive online community since many of us don’t have this support in our real life worlds.

 

What do you love about your work? In what way is it fulfilling? 

It’s not.  It pays well and allows me to work from home.  My husband is not supportive of my staying home.  If he can’t stay home, why should I? (his attitude about it)  He would like to retire, too.  (his words)

What is most challenging for you about work outside the home: time management, challenges to your principles, behaving charitably with high-maintenance personalities? Something else?

I hate my job.  I have for years.  I have the golden handcuffs on, because they pay me very, very well, treat me well, and I can telecommute.  24 hours a week seems like a dream to some, but 24 hours a week, every week, doing a job you have hated for years is harder than you can imagine.

What thoughtless remarks about your lifestyle could you live without?

Everyone assumes that if the woman is willing to give up certain material things, she could stay home.  That’s not the case for all of us.  I think in some ways because I have managed to do well in a part-time job and still do as much as I have for the family and our home that it’s worked against me.  He is perfectly content the way things are.  And yes, he knows how much I hate this job and working.  I have cried and cried over it.  Every time he says just quit, and then continues in a lifestyle that we simply cannot afford on his salary alone.  Even part-time, I have made more money than he has most of our marriage.

I know I should try to say something postive, but working is something I resent every single day.  My feelings about it harm our marriage and shadows my entire life.  When I was 26 and married him, I had no idea that I would ever want to be a stay at home wife and mom.  So I understand that my own choices put me where I am.  Hopefully someone else can learn from my mistakes.

 

Sheila, is there any way you can use the experience and know-how you’ve gained at this job to get a different telecommuting job that you wouldn’t deplore so much? I know how awful it is to have a job you hate. Also, have you heard of the system where you wean yourself off the second income? The first month, you sock away 10% of your income in a special account and live on 90%. When you find you can do that comfortably, you start saving 20% of your income and live on 80%. Then you keep going, upping it every month or two until you’re living on 10% and saving 90%. In the end, you are free to quit your job and you have a nice safety net from the money you’ve been saving.

 

Sparki777 - Thank you. I do recognize that I’m depressed and am having trouble seeing any possibility of change.  I always find that frustrating in other people.  smile  I have what most people would consider a dream situation, and I am ashamed of my attitude about it.  If I gave up this situation, I would be unlikely to make even half as much.  My husband accepted a new job in a higher cost of living area in December.  The kids and I have stayed here until school ends.  My emotions are running very high about this right now because the house we are buying will require my income to make house payments on.  We don’t have any other debt.  I have worked SO hard to get us out of debt and into a situation where I could quit, and he felt the need to make this move which is entirely draining our emergency fund (I had 6 months) and all our cash.  I feel like he has undone my work of the last 10 years.  The house is expensive partly because the COL is so much higher, but it’s also because he feels the need to live in a certain town in a certain area of that town.  I am so angry at myself that I can’t seem to say no to him.  I know I am contributing to the situation, but I can’t seem to stop.  Evidently I should have placed this in the couple talk section.  I’m sorry.  I’m not in a good place mentally right now and just shouldn’t have responded to the job question.

 

Sheila, I totally get it! My husband used to overspend as well. It took a brain injury to cure him, I’m afraid, and I wouldn’t wish that on you. Since he recovered from it, though, he’s super stingy! It’s one of the personality changes that I don’t mind so much.

If you haven’t closed on the house yet, it’s not too late to back out. You’d lose your earnest money, but that’s a one-time thing, not a monthly thing. I don’t know what state you live in, but where I live, one spouse can’t buy a house without the other unless they are legally separated. So if you haven’t signed the paperwork and you have a good reason not to (“We can’t afford this!”), then you can still get out of it.

I know it would be tough, but it might be better in the long run. Of course, you should discuss it with him well before you go to close on the house, rather than spring it on him at the last minute. A more modest house in the same area is surely available.

 

Thanks for asking, Rebecca! Great responses so far.

“What do you love about your work? In what way is it fulfilling?”

I work at a large university and love the learning environment and great people I work with. I’m part-time, and love that I can have a flexible schedule that works around the kids. I really like the work itself too, and am fortunate that I am working in the field I went to graduate school for. I also love that both the director and assistant director of my immediate work group are Catholic and go to my parish!

“What is most challenging for you about work outside the home: time management, challenges to your principles, behaving charitably with high-maintenance personalities? Something else?”

Time management is definitely a biggie. Working part-time, while often wonderful, can sometimes feel like the worst of both worlds. Like I’m not doing a good job in either place. I often feel spread pretty thin. As far as challenges to principles, etc.—working at a university is great because it’s welcoming of all kinds of people and beliefs. I haven’t had any trouble there. And you can encounter difficult personalities are everywhere, not just at work!

“What thoughtless remarks about your lifestyle could you live without?”

As others have mentioned, unfortunately it’s the remarks from other Catholics that are the most hurtful. We can afford for me to stay home, but working part-time is the best fit for me right now. Our 3 kids are thriving in school/child care and I don’t feel guilty about making choices that are right for me and my family.  It’s discouraging when other Catholics look at my choices and determine that I’m selfish, or that my kids are suffering because I’m not home with them 24/7. It would be great if all Catholic mothers could support one another in the choices we make to be the best moms we can be!

 

*What do you love about your work? In what way is it fulfilling?
I’m a transactional lawyer and I really like delving into the details of deals and helping clients get to closing.  At my last job (big firm) things got really difficult for awhile in terms of the work environment, but everything fell into place for a new job I started last fall and it’s worked out much better.  Real estate transactions and lending aren’t big “helping people” kinds of jobs, but there have been a few pro bono commercial leases I’ve done for pro-life groups, and in general it’s fulfilling to be professionally respected and to use my education to work through tough legal issues and find solutions.

*What is most challenging for you about work outside the home: time management, challenges to your principles, behaving charitably with high-maintenance personalities? Something else?
It used to be dealing with tough personalities (last job was truly draining emotionally, and I was prepared to walk away).  But overall it’s time management - I try to put a lot of time into being a good mother and a good employee, and other things (like laundry, lawn, general cleaning with the exception of the kitchen, staying on top of emails, etc.) all kind of fall by the wayside.  The legal profession is extremely liberal and not particularly friendly to conservatives in general, much less religious/social conservatives, but I belong to Catholic and legal conservative professional groups that I love being a part of.  I have had many opportunities along the way since law school to speak up about “controversial” issues even though I am not a confrontational type of person, but I usually figure, if not me, then who?  (Not being prideful - there are quite a few of my colleagues who never encountered serious Catholics before!)  My new firm has several serious Catholics and so is quite hospitable.

*I’d like to hear what the moms who work outside the home wish people understood about their lifestyle.
I always thought I’d stay home, but it makes more sense for now for me to be working.  We try to live below our means - I make much more than my husband but we’ve used the money to buy our reasonable house, pay off student loans, and take advantage of some things.  I’m doing this now because I like working, I love the woman who has been with us for years taking care of my kids, and I want to save money while we can, but as more kids come along things I know things will change.  It’s just important for moms to be charitable about other people’s decisions, which I think most people are.

 

First of all - thank you to Rebecca for this blog. This is the first that I have seen dedicated to working Catholic Mums. I live in Australia and go to Mass in a very conservative (Latin) community where most drive mini-vans and homeschool. I have a 2 year old son and 5 month old daughter. I worked in a full-time job until my son was born and resigned from my stressful and non family-friendly job. I intended to stay home full-time as a Mum until my children were in school or perhaps homeschool. Motherhood has been a challenge for me and I have found that I really missed the order of my working day, and the intellectual stimulation. Despite this, I was determined to stay home and follow the example of my ‘sisters’. Life hasn’t worked out like that however. Following considerable financial strain, the urgings of my husband and the discovery that I was pregnant (requiring money we just didn’t have), I knew that I had to return to work. God brought a part-time position to my door, working for a lovely Catholic family, who were extremely flexible, valued my work, and paid me very well. After some difficulty finding suitable care for my son, (including taking him to work for several weeks and it becoming increasingly difficult for me to do both at the same time), God found a place at a wonderful day care centre. Lo and behold - my son was thriving, I was happy with the balance, and our financial situation had eased considerably. Me working part-time was actually really good for my family.

The best part about me working was the journey it took me as a mother. I learnt to embrace the very important parts of me the way God made me. I have skills and talents as a professional, that took me the best part of the last 10 years to develop (I am 30). After reading some of the comments above, I sat up much straighter in my chair and feel that it really must be okay to be proud of that part of me that enjoys my work. If I am happy, my children are happy, my husband is happy. The most challenging part of my work outside the home was dealing with my own insecurities and philosophies about whether I was doing the right thing. This arguement is still present inside my head and heart at times, but prayer and asking God to lead the way will deal with this. Support of other mothers makes a huge difference. Along with many of the other women on this blog, comments other from well-meaning Catholic men and women have been judgemental and show poor understanding. No, I don’t want luxuries, I want to house, feed and clothe my family. I don’t really want to answer “doesn’t your husband earn enough money” and all the other silly comments. I have often felt very much in the minority and at times rather ashamed about working part-time, and as to the day-care question and subsequent judgements… Enough! I haven’t yet returned to work and am not sure when that will happen. I am hoping to wait until my second is at least 1. In the meantime, I am really appreciating my time at home, but I don’t think it will be the end of the world when I return, provided we walk with God and let Him show us what He wants me to do each day. Thank you for the opportunity to explore this topic on this blog and all the best to you from Australia.


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