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I don’t have any advice, but I’m interested to hear what others have to say.  Our biological family will probably not be as big as we had hoped when we got married and we have thought and talked a lot about adoption.  But, while we would have no problem adopting children from whatever country/background (whether we end up with domestic or foreign adoption), I worry quite a bit about what various in-laws would say.  Every once in awhile, the my parents-in-law (and one sil) will make some comment that just floors me with its racism.  It’s very infrequent, but it’s been enough (and offensive enough) that I would worry about bringing a child into our family who would be treated as inferior due to skin color.  So I’m hoping others will have some suggestions here!

 

Talking with the child about how others may react to their relationship and helping to craft positive responses might help them manage their reactions in the face of negative comments from others—a la the “large family comebacks” I’ve seen on this site and others used in the face of nasty comments about family size. Remind them that relatives and friends can have nasty things to say about anyone they bring home—their intended might be too Southern/too Northern/too educated/not educated enough/etc—and that their relationship is primarily their own business.

However, when talking to the child about possible negative reactions to the relationship, I’d caution the parent not to sound so fearful and negative that it puts the child off dating that particular person or makes them look at everyone cross-eyed, searching for negative reactions. My first crush/dance/etc was an African American boy and my mom’s fearful talk about how “others”—or maybe she herself, although that was never stated explicitly—would react to a white girl and a black boy made me think she disapproved and put me off pursuing anything. Granted, I was in middle school and wasn’t an adult, but still—too much concern might come off as veiled disapproval.

 

My advice would be to not make it a big deal.  Sometimes we over analyze situations so much that we make them bigger than they really are.  Why does the adult child in the relationship need to let anyone know the race of the person they are dating?  If the grandparents ever have the opportunity to meet the happy couple together, whatever happens will happen and deal with the reactions as they come or calmly and casually respond to any questions after the fact.  Let it be the grandparents that make the big deal out of it, not the other way around.  The situation may turn out to be a pleasant surprise.  I have experienced this a number of times in my own life when I was tempted to overreact before an envisioned situation played out.  Most of the time, what I envisioned never even occurred.  My parents always frowned upon interacial dating, but it never bothered me because I knew it was their problem, not mine.

 

My grandparents might have appeared, on the surface, to be racist.  In reality, they were opposed to a particular *culture*, where people did not care about getting an education and did not lead morally good lives.  The teens would call it “ghetto”, and it is glorified by some rappers.  I do not think my grandparents would have been bothered by any of us girls dating a wholesome Catholic guy who happened to be Black.  In fact, my nephew is biracial, and they utterly adored him and did not care what race he was.  They did not like his father—not because the father was Black, but because he was a bad person.  He was from that culture they disliked, and it was his behavior—behavior learned from his environment—that they opposed.

My sister was convinced that the entire family was racist and opposing him because he was Black, but we could not have cared less about his race.  We despised his behavior.  She was so sure that we were racist that she ignored our opinions about his behavior, chalking it up to our “racism”. 

This guy treated my sister terribly, and she eventually left him.  She raised her son in our hometown, and he is a wholesome and intelligent young man, nothing like his father in behavior.

Some people (like my sister) are so determined to oppose racism that they are blind to actual character faults they see in people of other races, because thy think that if they think poorly of a person from another race, it *must* be the result of their own racism.  They don’t trust their own judgment.

I agree with Michelle.  Furthermore, what might have appeared as racism in the family of origin might not actually be racism.

 

I agree.  As someone who is part white, part Asian and part black and married to someone who is part Indian I can tell you that I abhor the ghetto culture.  There are some real problems with urban black culture in this country.  Some “racist” whites assume all blacks are a part of that culture. Of course that isn’t true but it’s important to keep in mind that it isn’t always the color of the skin some people have a problem with, it’s a certain culture.  Which is why there is less bias against marrying an Asian because the culture of Asian immigrants is more respected by whites.  So it may help to point out to inlaws or relatives that the newest member of the family has various positive traits that they would approve of such as religious, educated, family-oriented, hard-working, etc.

 

This doesn’t address the dating question exactly, but if you’re looking for tips on how to raise your children to be open and accepting of other races, check out the book Nurtureshock by Po Bronson and Ashley Merryman.  There is a chapter there called “Why White Parents Don’t Talk About Race,” and it’s utterly fascinating.  I’m not going to do it justice here, but in brief, they explain how studies have shown that young kids naturally categorize according to skin color (studies of preschoolers show that when you give them stacks of cards with diverse people on them and tell them to sort the people into any categories they like, the vast majority of kids sort the cards by race—not by gender, age, or other obvious factors.)  At the same time, the authors explain that most white parents don’t feel comfortable talking about race, and many figure that if they send their kids to diverse schools with people of many races, the kids will just naturally learn not to be racist. In fact, young kids have lots of natural questions about race and the best thing parents can do is address it directly.  (“Have you ever noticed that some people have darker skin and that some have lighter skin?  Isn’t it neat that God made so many different kinds of people?”).  I’m not doing the chapter justice here; you should really check it out.  It’s fascinating and eye-opening.

 

I second the recommendation of NurtureShock. I found almost the entire book fascinating and changed many of the little things I say to our kids because of what I read there. I would also recommend not talking too much about the race issue. Let the adults who are dating decide when and how to introduce each other to family members. Chances are, the non-white person in the relationship (sadly) has encountered racism before and will know best how he or she prefers to handle it. We are very blessed to have a mixed race family. (My adopted sister is Black and my sister-in-law is from El Salvador.) We have many opportunities to discuss how different people look but that we all have a soul created by God. Stories of Martin de Porres and Mother Teresa are also good ones to use when discussing racism.

 

I agree with letting the couple decide when and where to introduce each other to the other’s family…probably the best tactic. I’m sure the couple is pretty well prepared on the reception they might receive from both sides, and they could both be very pleasantly surprised.

A funny story on race and color of skin…my husband is Filipino and I’m Caucasian. I’m pregnant with my third baby and I asked my 4 1/2 year old what he thinks the baby will look like. He said, “I think he’ll have black skin.” I couldn’t stop laughing!! Another time he asked me what Filipino means, so I basically told him that they’re a group of people from some small islands called the Philippines. I told him that Papa’s parents came from the Philippines so they’re called Filipinos. Then he asked if my (very white) parents were Filipino too! ha! I found it so fascinating that he didn’t immediately see (or even hear, for that matter) the difference between his two sets of grandparents! I guess you really can’t get around the whole color-of-the-skin thing when explaining ethnicities to kids smile

 

I’m of southern European descent (aka “White”).  My first ‘real love’ in college was Black.  I was completely astounded when my parents, who raised me to treat everyone as the same, were upset about our relationship.  My boyfriend was not surprised though.  He thoughtfully said their dream for their little girl was not that she grow up and marry a Black man.  I was so angry and bewildered because the very thing they taught me and hoped for me was what I had become, yet they themselves did not accept everyone, which they admitted over time.  They told me they learned something about themselves and that even so, it was not something they were okay with—they cited the troubles we would encounter and that our children would experience.  I do understand that it is one thing to want to be colorblind with all folks you meet, but a family marriage was not what they had thought about when they modeled and encouraged colorblindness.  (In fact, my two best friends growing up were Black and American Indian and of course always at each others’ homes, in the same carpool, etc.)  Granted this was the early 80s, so interracial dating was much less common than today.  If he had been Catholic, I probably would have married him though.  In the end we broke up over differences in faith more than anything.  His family 100% accepted me by the way.

 

My husband is Mexican and I am white as they come midwestern girl. I had not only the stigma of marrying a hispanic, but he also happened to be an undocumented hispanic. After we married my family watched as we struggled to get my husbands immigration papers. There were many in my family that were very skeptical of our relationship because of the race thing. But I had very supportive parents that saw my husband for who he was as a person and not his race.

This parent should not make a big deal of the race issue with the child but make sure the child knows that you support their relationship because of the person the boyfriend is. They can let family members know that the child is in an interracial relationship and tell them how great the boyfriend is for xyz reason. Don’t dwell on the race.

I was lucky, even those that were worried in my family have come around. We really didn’t get that much resistance. Or maybe I just refused to see it at the time. If a family member won’t include the boyfriend at a family gathering (assuming the relationship is serious enough that they should be included) then the parents shouldn’t feel they have to attend to show solidarity with their child…for what is right. But in turn, the child shouldn’t always expect them to not attend family events in this scenario.

Deal with each issue, one at a time, as they come up. The less the child and parent blow it out of proportion the less extended family will react.

 

I pray for my kids to find a holy relationship, not a same race. My oldest just married a Catholic Chilian manand my other son is dating a lovely Catholic girl who has a black dad and white mom. I will continue to stress to all my other children that sharing the faith is more important than sharing a color.
+JMJ+

 

Positivity is the only way—if this mom models her approval, excitement over the boyfriend/girlfriend, talks about his/her wonderful characteristics, that will set them up to like him or her. Don’t bring up the race unless they do.

My beloved sister-in-law is seriously dating a young man of Haitian descent, who is black. We LOVE him, he is an amazing man, has overcome so much, is so good for her, etc. and we cannot wait for him to “pop the question.”

I am very pleased and surprised by my MIL’s reaction to him—pure joy. She is not a racist person but I expected some anxiety about the relationship due to the area where she lives (people can be very racist there.) She is truly a model to me in this.

 

Most of the comments here seem pretty positive.  I would caution that to marry into a different culture can be quite an adjustment and to tread carefully before making that kind of committment.  I speak from experience - this happened to my parents and they were not able to overcome the cultural differences.

 

I have a little different question concerning Lisa’s post.  I grew up in a family that become deeply involved with the foreign exchange portion of Rotary International during my high school years, so much so that I feel there is actually something of an attitude of reverse discrimination to the point that I internalized the feeling that white, Euro-centric people (like me and my family) were just plain boring.  Anything but white was thought of as unique and cool and desirable.  We lived in Berkely, CA, for four years, and I really was happy to have people of every ethic background and many couples with ethnically mixed marriages as normal parts of our lives, like Lisa mentions.  Even so, and without intending to, I think I may have passed some of the “white is boring” attitude that I caught in the Rotary circles in high school on to my children, because they honestly roll their eyes when I try to talk about being proud of our Irish and German heritage.  Has any one else experienced something like this?  If so, what have you done to counter it?  Thanks for any thoughts and thanks for bringing up this valuable topic, Lisa!

 

My kids are pretty young, so this hasn’t been an issue for me [yet!], but I think that the more kids know about their heritage, the more interesting they’ll find it.  Every culture has its cool legends and exciting stories and fascinating bits of history.  As a kid, reading The Trumpeter of Krakow made me feel closer to my Polish heritage.  Fifteen years ago, my cousin’s wife started an annual Polish Dinner for the extended family, where we eat Polish food and play trivia games about the culture.  Maybe something like that could work for your kids?  Or you could create a challenge to have them find the most interesting fact about Ireland or Germany that they can.  I bet they’ll find some great information.

 

Those are good ideas, Ginny.  Thanks!


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