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Can anyone explain to me if she is or isn’t now a princess? I read that the Queen has given her the title “Duchess of Cambridge,” but that she will not be called “Princess?” Anybody understand this? Kind of disappointing, I think. Girls don’t grow up dreaming about marrying a prince to be called “Duchess of Cambridge!”
Not sure if this is accurate, but I heard on the news last night that she CANNOT have the title Princess because Princess is reserved for royal blood. I heard that she will be given her title today sometime - maybe it is the Duchess of Cambridge.
Basically what RealMom4Life said is accurate. I read somewhere that while Price William had requested that break with tradition for Kate, it posed an issue for the Queen, since there’s some other Duchess-of-somewhere who was in the same position and would then probably also want the title princess. And that matters somehow. 
She could be called Princess William because she was not born titled and must assume her husband’s full name. Since the Queen bestowed on them the Duchy of Cambridge, she can be called HRH The Duchess of Cambridge. Prince Edward’s wife, The Countess Sophie, is also called Princess Edward.
Oh dear. Hallie just wants to talk about the dress, and we are trying to navigate the Byzantine rules of titles in the British Monarchy. Lady Diana Spencer was never Princess Diana, except popularly, but (get ready for this) HRH Diana, Princess of Wales while she was still married and (watch for it) Diana, Princess of Wales after the divorce.
Thank you, Jen A. That actually makes sense to me, don’t quite know why it is important to me, but there it is, it is. Some go for dresses, others titles, sorry to disrupt things, I have just been really interested and no one I ask can explain it so I can understand, and the proper terminology I read doesn’t make sense to my post-partum brain. She did look lovely, whatever her name is, and I think her Prince thought she looked lovely, too, by the look in his eyes. Thanks for helping me get to the bottom of this…
If the Queen had not bestowed the Duke and Duchess title on them, Kate would be Princess William of Wales, as others have mentioned she was not born into the title and so only has one in relation to her husband. When Charles ascends to the throne and William becomes Prince of Wales (he was a prince of wales, but not THE prince of wales), then Kate will become Princess of Wales. When he becomes King, she will be Queen.
Regarding why Diana was called “princess”....I believe she was descended from royalty, whereas Kate is not.
Hallie, I’m with you 100%! Especially since my roots lie in the Royal blood line. Lady Mary Alice Molloy who was Lady in Waiting for Queen Victoria was my great great great grandmother. I saw my dearly departed grandmother many times today, whenever I saw a floral dress worn with a pastel hat. That put a very large smile on my face. I’m on my 5th cup of tea at 9:55am. At 8 I finally left the TV to make some maple scones for breakfast. : )
oh gosh, the rules of titles and such give me a headache - silly British :-p
i did want to say how much i LOVED her dress - so simple, so classic, so modest!!
here’s hoping it inspires a whole new wave of wedding fashion that ISN’T strapless (says the women who wore a strapless for her own wedding - there just aren’t other choices!)
Amen to that! I’m hoping it starts a new trend where classy lacy sleeves are available on something designed for women in their 20s. Wedding dress shopping for myself and my sisters has been really hard - boleros have been the only option to make a tube top style feel appropriate for being in church.
I am totally with ya, Hallie! I had three cups of tea and scones, and loved every minute of it! And the music—especially the boys’ choir—was delightful.
I just hope that Kate and Wills are faithful and produce lots of children. The Brits need a good example of family life to turn things around.
And I hope that all the references to “Holy matrimony,” “marriage is ordained for continuation of new life,” and “the Will of God” rubs off on the British. Wow, I wonder if all the proponents of living together, gay marriage, etc., as well as Elton got the message? Was anyone else struck by that?
I thought the royal men looked extremely dashing but to be honest I was underwhelmed by Kate’s dress. It was beautiful of course but not significantly different or more beautiful than most wedding gowns I see except the fact that it had a long train and was made of expensive fabrics. It might be different to see the detail in person but on TV is just didn’t look that spectacular. Still, I liked it a lot more than Diana’s gown that had looked over-the-top and costumey to me. Her gown was very elegant and tasteful but rather subdued.
There was something familiar about that dress, and I googled several famous brides, trying to remember where I had seen something similar. Then I remembered that is was very similar to my Mother-in-Law’s wedding dress from the early 1950s. The lace, the sleeves, the bodice—so similar except without the train, of course.
I am a Canadian by birth and now recently also an American citizen. I was kind of sad to hear how many people thought we are silly to watch a Royal Wedding I felt it important to pray for Prince William and Kate. Many of us hope and pray for them as England is hurting emotionally and economically and desperately needs to believe in the bond of marriage again. Though the cultural love some have for the monarchy may not be respected by all, at least the love and prayers we have can go to this young couple. For them to be faithful to each other and God would be a huge example, and it does lead, example always does. Pray for them to be good leaders. Pray for the intercession of our late Holy Father John Paul II who is to be beatified this weekend. Of course this takes precedence. But in no means does sharing joy for the Royal Wedding today take away from that. So many people I think were comparing it, fellow Catholics at least feeling the need to shun the wedding because it fell on the same weekend. I for one thought it was a beautiful thing, thining back of course on the similar timing of the deaths of Diana and Mother Teresa. God has his reasons. Lastly the royalty is not Hollywood. This isn’t Lindsay Lohan goes to jail coverage or what is Paris wearing. I think few understand the ramifications that this kind of positive boost can have economically and morally in Europe. I think John Paul II if he were here today would most defiently been cheering them on in teh hopes that they woudl turn the tide, perhaps even come back to Catholicism. Lady Diana Spencer’s mother is Catholic and Lady Diana was burried with a rosary that Mother Teresa gave her. I pray for Prince William and Prince Kate now Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, that they can be a witness to love in a world so in need of that witness, as our late Holy Father was. What a wonderful weekend this is, starting with the Royal wedding and now on to Mercy Sunday and the greatest Beautification of our time.
Eileen - I totally agree that it is a beautiful religious and cultural event, and we should all be celebrating with them! And did I imagine it, or were there some Catholic Bishops/Cardinals in attendance? I thought I saw them as Will and Kate came down the isle? And they were the only ones that clapped as the couple walked down together - I love that the Catholics brought the “celebration feel” to the church!
Yes! did you notice those nuns sitting directly next to Kate (or the Duchess to be more polite) at the side of the altar? what was that about? perhaps she went to a convent school and they were favorite teachers? or perhaps they are Anglican “canonesses” (clergy attached to a cathedral). I have been reading about the wedding but haven’t found anything. However I did notice all the Catholic clergy (including an Eastern orthodox Patriarch) and the Cardinal Murphy-O’Connor joining in the hymns. Lovely. Sorry to go on, for some people it’s all about the dresses/hats, or the titles, but with me it’s the clergy….the effect of too much Barsetshire/Starbridge
I really loved Kate’s dress. It was great to see a modest wedding dress for a change. All the weddings I’ve been to these past few years the bride has worn a strapless gown, which just doesn’t fit with a church wedding. Would these brides wear a strapless top to Mass on Sundays? I don’t think so. So why is it okay to wear a dress that is so revealing to their wedding at church?
I am also hoping that her dress will inspire brides to begin dressing with dignity again. Modest gowns may be hard to come by in the shops, but there are beautiful, non-dorky, alternatives available on-line. There is no excuse to look like a skank in church on your wedding day.
Not to derail the thread, because I too loved her dress and how modest it was- but yes, some women might wear something strapless to Mass. In fact, the woman in front of me in the Communion line on Easter Sunday was wearing a swimsuit cover-up with what looked like a bikini underneath. Sigh.
Love, love, love the Royal Wedding hoopla. Couldn’t help but blog like a madwoman this morning. I was absolutely in tears as I watched their wedding ceremony, and prayed so much that they would be open to God’s grace in their vocation, as the Bishop of London said in his sermon. Have you read/heard that? It’s gorgeous and so uplifting.
http://www.officialroyalwedding2011.org/blog/2011/April/29/The-Bishop-of-London-s-Sermon
I watched the replay online…my husband had taken our daughter out for the morning so I wasn’t neglecting my duties at all. First of all, GORGEOUS music. Beautiful dress. Good sermon, considering it’s CofE, and no one does pageantry and festivity better than the UK. We’re praying for them, too. Hardly any young British people actually get married - mostly the live together. Maybe this will start a nice trend? I hope so. Many years and blessings to them!
Oh I have to admit I totally LOVE all the royal wedding romance stuff. I did not get up to see it, nor have I had time to watch anything on the web, but I did catch a glimpse of her getting out of the car while in a store that had a tv on, and oh.my.word. she looked stunning. Her dress reminded me a little bit of Grace Kelly (Princess Grace) and I love Grace Kelly’s look. She’d be my style icon if I actually had a figure and a style.
I can’t help it, I am just a sucker for a good romance and “commoner marries royalty” is just too romantic (OK, so a very wealthy commoner, but a commoner none-the-less). Can’t wait to actually have time to sit down and peruse all the royal wedding articles.
I’m glad to see other women enjoyed the beautiful wedding! (I don’t understand why so many of my friends are poopooing it.) I loved her wedding dress! Simple & elegant. I also loved the homily. You can read it online. http://www.officialroyalwedding2011.org/blog/2011/April/29/The-Bishop-of-London-s-Sermon
I was impressed at their vows too.
No, I did not get up to watch it. Sheesh, for crying out loud, they had been living together for about a year! Why the monumental party & white dress? I did see photos later in the day, yes, the bride was lovely, the groom handsome, the carriages amazing. The Brits do know how to throw a wedding.
they DID!?! sigh. i guess i’m not really surprised but this still makes me super sad….
I’m not sure what her title is, but I do know if and when William becomes king, she will be Queen Consort. Considering the success-or lack thereof-of his father and uncle it will be interesting if the marriage endures over the decades.
I did tape it as I work second shift (5 am is way too early). I did stay home from school (college) when Diana and Charles got married which dates me.
The sad thing is that once the babies start coming (especially if they have a son), poor Harry and the princesses (Andrew’s daughters) gets pushed further down the line. Princess Anne has almost zero chance at this rate.
Sorry to be the spoil sport, but I don’t see the big deal. It just seems to reinforce the cultural notion that it’s all about the wedding, and not the marriage. As some have commented, they have already been living together, so…But the real issue for me was the young children I teach in religion class could tell me the names of the royal couple and all the details, but couldn’t remember who was being beatified the same weekend. Our “hero-worship” is on all the wrong people.
I surprised myself by how much I enjoyed watching the thing. I know about the living together. Blah. Blah. Disliked that. BUT like someone above said ... am happy they decided to take the plunge in front of God and everybody. It seemed holy. Redemption is a beautiful thing. I will not judge their past ... but only pray for a blessed future. I hope the same mercy will be given me.
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OH I just LOVE all this stuff. I had a huge crush on Prince William when I was in Jr. High. Kate’s dress was absolutely gorgeous! Just now waiting for them to appear on the balcony! Sigh…. so romantic!