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Fine Points

Says You: How do you "How do you do?"

When I linked to Matt Archbold’s lovely tale of “angels unawares” yesterday, a few of the reactions got me thinking about a tangential point.

Matthew posits that in the Northeast, it’s considered rude to answer the question, “How are you?” with any response other than, “Fine,” because in the Northeast, no one cares about the answer.

I think that was a bit of hyperbole, not literally true, but it does make me curious how your parents trained you to answer that polite inquiry?

I was born and reared actually in the city of Washington, DC, which makes me a bona fide “Yankee” only in the minds of those from the Deep South. DC is below the Mason-Dixon line, and in the actual Northeast, a native Washingtonian (as opposed to a political transplant) is both desperately hard to come by and definitely second-class. We’re like New York’s little brother. We’re always trying to prove we’re as good a city, and it’s not even aware we’re competing.

I digress.

My father grew up in California (though born in NY) and my mother, child of a Phillips geologist, lived all over the Southwest: mostly Texas and Oklahoma. They each separately wound up in DC for work and met and married here.

My point is that we’re not Northeasterners by any stretch of the imagination, yet my parents definitely taught us that “How are you” is not an earnest question but a courtesy, to which the only proper response is, “Fine, thank you.”

It would be rude to burden a stranger with your woes and ailments, although if you cared to keep chatting you could always make an additional remark about the weather or something.

I distinctly remember being shocked in the 6th grade when I was going to sleep over at a friend’s house. On meeting her parents for the first time, I asked her mother, “How are you, Mrs. X?” —and got an earful about her many medical complaints! I’d never heard anyone answer the question and was amazed Mrs. X didn’t know this obvious point of etiquette.

I’m speaking here of ordinary exchanges with strangers or those to whom we’ve just been introduced; obviously we were allowed to share more of our lives and troubles with family members and close friends, who presumably cared—or ought to. It was laying our burdens on strangers that was considered gauche.

I do notice the norm has relaxed since when I was a kid, which may or may not be a good thing. The gentle chatter of people sitting at a bus or train stop I like. But we also seem to be culturally more tolerant of whining, which really serves no purpose but to make daily life a bit more unpleasant for everyone. I like a good, stiff upper lip.

At any rate, I’m curious how you were raised and whether, “Fine, thank you” is a point of fading etiquette or a regional particularity.

What were you taught? What are you teaching your kids?


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Born and raised in the northeast.
Raised to say, “I’m well, thank you, and you?” to a stranger’s polite inquiry. Sometimes I’ll say “Fine, thank you, and you?”
If I’m on the phone with say, my mil, and I’m asked how I am doing my pat answer is always, “I’m fine.” with friends and family it is a joke that I always say I’m fine no matter how un-fine I may be.
Now living in the South I’ll branch out to a more realistic/conversational comment depending on the enquirer.
“Hot!!” or “Praying for rain!” is a pretty common response these days.

 

I was raised in Cincinnati, OH and I always answer factually, but short and to the point, like “hanging in there” or “it’s been one of those days,” if I am not “fine.” But, I don’t go into detail with strangers. Heck they never ask me for details. I don’t think I would tell them, even if they did. But, with family I tell them exactly how I really feel and why, if they have time to listen. My husband, who is Filipino, even has trouble answering me with anything, but fine. If I feel he is moody, I have to sorta drag it out of him, everytime I ask. I always have to tell him that “I am your wife and if you can’t tell me, who can you tell?” I tend to blame this on his gender, as much as I blame it on his culture because being Filipino, even his sisters don’t tend to talk about their personal problems.

 

I usually answer with “fine, how are you”, or “good, how are you”?  I haven’t instructed my son, but he has responded with “good” a few times.  I think he’s just learning by example.

 

I think in the Southern U.S. the most common answer is still “fine.” But Southerners do seem to have a knack for being able to exchange small talk. Most of us grew up hearing it and can easily fall into it if the mood strikes us or we are encouraged by another person’s responses. If I’m at the check out and the clerk asks “How are you today” and a toddler is grabbing things out of the basket as fast as I can empty it or the baby starts wailing, I’ll likely answer with “Well I have lots of help today” or “I think we’re ready to get home!” That usually leads to questions about ages or offers of treats for distraction or asking about nap time. Polite small talk. But if I’m tired, in a hurry or just want to watch my bill then of course I’m fine and that’s the cue that there won’t be conversation today. But even in the south you find there is a difference between urban and rural. Definitely more chatting the more rural you are.

 

That reminds me of the time I went to the doctor.  After she came in the room and asked “How are you today?” I responded with “Fine, thanks,” and then proceeded to tell her exactly how un-fine I was. I realized the irony immediately!  (Haha - my word verification is “feel”)

 

I live in Jersey and yes, that it what is commonly said here. Only family members give an “honest” response to that question. When I was in “rehab” for an eating disorder in my 20s, the biggest joke was when you answered “fine.” There it is was an acronym for “F-ed up, Insecure, Neurotic, Emotional. We were all so well trained not to discuss our true feelings or air our dirty laundry. I think when raising children it’s important to actually explain why we have our public, polite ways but that it’s important to answer “how are you?” honestly when asked by family or close friends. It truly is an intimate, bonding question that lets someone know you genuinely care about his/her well being or state of mind.

 

Wow, no wonder it feels like people look at me funny all the time… I was born and raised in the Midwest but now live in the Northeast… I guess I was always taught to answer the question honestly, while of course not giving out too much information. For example, someone last week asked me how I was doing this summer and I answered, “Hanging in there.” Last summer when I was 9 months pregnant someone asked and I answered, “Tired, fat and crabby.” Of course sometimes the answer is, “I’m doing well, thank you… how are you?” I guess I figure if people really don’t want to know or start a conversation, they wouldn’t ask! Then of course there’s my father-in-law, a native New Yorker but an Irishman… he will tell you his entire life’s story (and get yours, too) within the first five minutes of meeting you. Oh well, thanks for the tip!

 

I am in the Midwest also and I tend to answer more factually.  If I am sick or otherwise not doing well I say, “surviving” or “hanging in the there” or if things aren’t too bad I will say “alright”  or “ok.” If everything is going fairly well then I say “fine”.  I have even been known to say “great” in some circumstances.  I don’t think I was taught to do anything specific but I feel dishonest if I always just say “fine.”  If I ask someone else how they are I really do want to know.  If it’s a stranger I probably will just say “hi, nice to meet you” rather than “how are you.”

 

Another Midwesterner here, and I also answer “How are you” with varied responses. We’re an earnest bunch over here, and saying “Fine, thanks” sometimes feels disingenuous. I wouldn’t characterize it as whiny, necessarily, but I do try to give a genuine answer. That can be “glad it’s Friday!”, or “surviving the snow”, or “enjoying this fall weather”.

I also wonder if “how are you” is less of a courtesy here, and if the people who ask typically do want to know the answer. If I ask my babysitter, or neighbor, or my kids’ friends, or a mom at school how they’re doing, I genuinely want to know. Hearing “fine, thanks” could feel like a polite way of saying “none of your business” or “I don’t want to talk about it.” Store clerks don’t typically ask how I’m doing; they ask how the weather is outside or if I found everything I needed. It wouldn’t occur to me to ask them how they’re doing either, as a pleasantry. I would just say “thanks for your help” or “have a nice day”.

Interesting topic, Rebecca!

 

Funny. I’m from the midwest too, and similarly I answer honestly, but vaguely with some of the same answers you gave. Also, I rarely begin a conversation with a stranger that way. I don’t ask someone “how are you” unless I really want to know.

 

Another Midwesterner here. I tend to say “I’m fine, thank you” in professional settings (like with the doctor, no matter how not fine I am) and in less formal settings unless it’s raining, snowing, windy, the end of the week, the beginning of the week, allergy season, my kids are needing their naps, construction season, hot, cold, etc., in which case the normal thing to do is to kvetch about the current irritant. Online I normally say “OK, u?”

 

My parents are Midwesterners, they moved to Virginia when I was 9.  Then I spent my college and young adult years in PA and NJ.  Now I am where the Army sends us - currently in the Southeast.  I guess I’ve learned to tailor my response to the person asking it.  Seems silly to say, “Fine” while standing in the pouring rain waiting for a late bus.  But I doubt that the grocery store clerk who is required to greet me with a smile really wants to hear about my PMS or the speeding ticket I just got.  But the **best response** I ever received to this question was when the security guard at the gate to post asked me, “How are you?” and I said, “Fine, how are you?” and she said, “I am BLESSED.”  Her joy was/still is contagious.

 

I grew up in the Northwest US, and was taught to say, “I’m doing well, thank you, and you?”  it’s just polite conversation as nobody wants to hear any depressing news as such.
I often answer this way even when I really NOT well, but old habits die hard…

My favorite answer came from my sweet nurse when I asked how she was doing she said:“I’m vertical and ventilating—so it’s a GOOD day!”  It really made me laugh!

 

in response to Tina who has a Filipino husband: as a filipina (born and raised in the midwest), if you ask any filipino (esp. those born in the Philippines) anything from “how are you?” to “would you like to do such-and-such?”, the FIRST response is always “fine” and “I’d love to”... if you really want to know the answer, you need to ask 3 times - REALLY! the first time, they will say what you want to hear (e.g., “Mom, can you watch my kids tomorrow morning?” response:  “Oh, yes!”)  the second time you ask, the response is a little closer to the truth. (“Mom, are you sure you can watch my kids? response: “umm… let me check my calendar”.) the third time (or sometimes the fourth!), you’ll finally get the truth: (“Okay mom, i’ll drop them off at 9am.” response: “actually, no, i can’t, i’ve got a doctor’s appointment.”)  seriously!!... i’ve come to realize that for most filipinos, their FIRST response is always the polite response, aimed to please you (which is nice to a certain point) but if you want a truthful response, you need to ask more than once… by the way, my example was from a real conversation with my mom last week!

 

Candy,

That is too funny! I loved your anecdotes! I can relate with my Filipino in-laws! I love them, though! They are such wonderful people!

 

In the ‘I know I’m different” category:  I often share some truth with the person inquiring, be it struggle or joy, as I am trying to make a connection with them.  It is almost always well received, and I have met amazing people this way who while at first were surprised that I didn’t just respond with a meaningless social nicety and a minute later were sharing something of themselves.  We both were better off for the moment it took to do so (and it’s a good thing to role model for children—that you care about the stranger/receptionist/etc.).  I try to be mindful of the idea that you never know what the person you encounter may be struggling with and that you are/can be the face of Christ to them.  (I am from New York state.)

 

I was born and raised in Northern Va.  I usually answer with “fine, thanks. How are you?”, unless I am more familiar with the person.  I usually struggle with how to answer when a Doctor comes in and asks this.  Are they just being nice, or do they really want to know.  I usually answer them with “I’ve been better.”, because if I was fine I wouldn’t be at the Doctors!
My father was born and raised in the South.  I remember going to S.C. to visit my Grandmother.  I’d see people waving at us as we drove down the road in S.C. and ask my father who the person waving was.  He’d say “I don’t know.”  I began to think my father was someone famous because all these people we didn’t know were waving at us like they knew us!  I didn’t know they were being friendly southerners. In Northern Va you didn’t wave at cars passing by unless you knew the person.  Ha!

 

Many people ask “how are you?”  as a matter of polite exchange without really caring to know how you are at the time. You can view this a sad reality or a matter of social discourse. Depending on the situation and the relationship, I think honesty is the best way to go, knowing that TMI can’t dampen the conversation!  An answer like, “struggling with contentment today” or “Suffering a little with back pain” helps someone understand that you might not be feeling on top of your game without belaboring the point or inviting pity.  Trying to mask pain or discomfort is considered noble in Catholic circles where we understand the value of suffering, but the people we interact with deserve the information if it hampers our functioning or mental state. Then again, a positive response, when heartfelt (even in spite of pain, if it is true), like “I am blessed!” can be so uplifting to those around you.  Honesty.  Simplicity. Connection.  I hope to pass those values to my children.


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