I’d heard this earlier today and I’m still confused. I’d be interested in hearing what others have to say. This honestly made me cry. This hurts the Church. It hurts all of us. It seems he is choosing his “ministry” (I read this as “money”) over his vocation. Maybe I’m misunderstanding it, but that’s how it comes across to me. I will continue to pray.
Fr. Corapi's Goodbye Announcement
Posted by Danielle Bean in News on Saturday, June 18, 2011 10:10 AM
I know that many of you have followed Fr. Corapi and the story of the accusations against him. Today comes the sad announcement that he is leaving the priesthood. You can read his announcement here or listen to it in the video.
Let us pray for everyone involved in this sad and strange story, Fr. Corapi, and for all of our priests.
Comments
This makes me so sad. Fr. Corapi (as I will always consider him) is a warrior, not affraid of the truth, but rather embracing it and all that it entails, to bring it to the people of our Faith. It seems that he is caught in what he describes as an impossible circumstance, unable to prove his innocense (which I truly believe is the situation), and forced beyond his control out of his position. Is it now possible to deny the fact that our wonderful Church has been infultrated by the Master of Disguise? There is no denying whose work this is. We must bombard St. Michael with prayers for his intercession in this matter.
Certainly it is possible to say The Enemy has not infiltrated the Church. Fr. Corapi is making a choice. I wonder at this. I wonder if he has not looked over the lives of MANY of the saints, including last century’s Padre Pio, who suffered greater false accusations and persecutions than Father is today. He endured all with patient subservience. He trusted God when he knew he could not trust the “process”, and so it is disturbing to notice in Fr. Corapi’s announcement his lack of mentioning trusting God at any point. HE has decided that the timeline will not work for him. HE has decided it won’t work out. I’m sorry, but we’re all in similar situations from time to time… things that are earthly impossible, but that’s where FAITH comes in. He could have been a better example, to be honest. God bless him.
Danielle,
I have to side with your fellow online reporter Mark Shea. It all looks to me so strange in the most freaky of ways. I in the beginning prayed for guidance on all the information if any at times on the Father Corapi accusations. And what saddens me about this news today is that we already have a huge challenge in our Catholic faith today, with the pedophilia cases in the past few years in the media, and now this issue with Father Corapi.
It sounds to me as the above comment from Mary Kate said, that it does all sound like a propaganda to start a new order or new ministry for as to make money and start advertising his new book that will be coming out, along with a planned out to leave the ministry at the approximate date of Father’s Day. Makes me sad and angry, and so very disappointed. I will as I know many who have listened to Father Corapi’s sermons, online on EWTN or on video will be following this story closely to draw a better conclusion. I only hope that through this entire saga, that we learn and also grow closer to our Catholic faith. I totally agree that this definitely will hurt the Catholic Church. I pray we have the higher-ups in the Vatican give their opinions and spiritual direction who are and will follow Father(or now Mr. Corapi) =( God bless. p.s. Thank you again Danielle for adding this to the Faith and Family Live site. blessings to you and your family on Father’s Day!
WOW. I listened to this yesterday and had a completely different take than everyone else! I thought, He has no other option. The Church has given him no other option here except to leave the priesthood or sit down quietly and just “take it”. Unfortunately for us, he has to leave the priesthood. I don’t think he has any disdain for the church or that he’s leaving the Church or starting a new order. It sounds like he’s simply working with what he has and putting his gifts to a new a ministry. I don’t know…. it sounded hopeful despite the tragedy around the entire thing. I guess the best we can all do is pray for him and that Jesus would keep him close to his Sacred heart.
Christina, I agree with you. I too thought there was an element of hope, in spite of what he feels is an impossible situation. The words that came to my mind were, “and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it”. Seems to be another element of suffering we can all offer up.
My initial reaction to this was very different. It reminded me of my stepfather’s situation when his ex-wife refused to allow him to see his children, and began a legal campaign against him. He was basically a good man at heart, but in the face of his ex’s opposition he stopped trying to see his kids. I was a child myself at the time and it was appalling to me to see a father literally give up on his kids. There are some things that you just can’t morally turn your back on, and a vocation is one of them. A priest can’t give up the priesthood just because it is harder than he expected it to be, just the way a parent can’t give up their parenthood just because it’s difficult. I am so sad about all of this. I’ve known other priests who have been persecuted for one thing or another, but they remained priests, loyal to the Church whatever the cost.
Christina, I agree with you also! Sounds like a satan attack to me. In my opinion, Fr. Corapi is a living saint. He made his mistakes, he is human, we all make mistakes, we are all sinners….thank God for the Catholic Church and the gift of Reconciliation. I marvel and am fascinated with his conversion story. He has converted hundreds if not thousands and thousands of people to (and back to) the Catholic faith. He has never candy coated his teachings or said what people wanted to hear…he always spoke the truth, more often than not, in a very bold way. He reminded me much of Padre, now St. Pio, in personality and charisma..and look what happened to St. Pio. Fr. Corapi is not giving up his priesthood by choice, in my opinion, he is humbly obeying his authorities’ request. Just as Jesus obeyed his foster father and blessed Mother on earth. The devil is tryng to get rid of him in the priesthood forever,...but, the truth will prevail because “the gates of hell shall not prevail against it”. God bless and love Fr. Corapi,... and all the priests.
I read the printout of Father’s speech and it didn’t sound too bad. I think it is a different situation than St. Padre Pio. It doesn’t seem like our Church and Bishops are coming to the aid of any of the innocent priests that have been charged without evidence. We need the bad ones gone, but not the good ones who are caught up in this evil business. We all know that satan would love to be rid of Fr. Corapi. If he feels that at his age it is better to leave the priesthood and still fight on as a layman, maybe he is right. We will just have to make sure that he continues to stay strong in the true Catholic faith and correct him immediately if he drifts off course. God bless him. It is strange times we are living in and we need lots of prayers for our Bishops and priests.
I thought Max Lindenman had the best take on it
http://www.patheos.com/community/diaryofawimpycatholic/2011/06/18/to-fr-corapi-bupkes-to-john-corapi-concern-and-sympathy/
The whole statement sounded so strange and it’s so sad; dh and I have really liked Fr. Corapi’s preaching for a long time. I don’t see at all how a three-month long investigation suddenly leaves him “no choice” but to leave the priesthood. No, living a life in seclusion isn’t what he would choose (obviously), but it’s not like saying private Masses and praying is doing nothing for the Church. And there are rather a lot of people who have undergone the same thing - Padre Pio and Henri de Lubac (who wrote some beautiful things on obedience while waiting out his silence) spring to mind - and offered it up and been vindicated. I don’t have quite as brutal a sense about it as Mark Shea (I don’t think Corapi has been that calculating all this time, I think he’s been mainly quite sincere and faithful), but I do get a strong sense that something is very wrong now. What form that will take remains to be seen, but prayer is needed for him and for those led by him to doubt the Church.
The above two priest’s were in entirely different situations, not wholesale throwing our priests to the wolves so to speak, the good with the bad. And not against one priest, but so many. Though I semi-agree with Fr. Corapi that is not what I would recommend for our other priests. Hopefully, he will go to Mass every single morning for the rest of his life to make sure he stays on the straight and narrow. The sinful priests have caused so much havoc in our Church.
Catholic Lane has a good article on this today:
http://catholiclane.com/father-john-corapi-and-the-state-of-due-process-for-accused-priests/
This situation is being handled so poorly. When kids are involved, and the accused priest has accessed to kids, then I agree that the zero-tolerance policy is the only way to go. The safety of children is a higher priority than the rights of the accused. But in other cases, it is so unfair when people are guilty till proven guilty.
I’ve been a fan of Father’s for a long time .... I’m saddened by this news,and can’t help but think that the Devil is rejoicing at this news. His style may not fit some tastes, but he’s one of the few priests I’ve heard that are straighforward about spiritual warfare.
I was concerned that I heard nothing about Jesus or Mary in his release, especially since he has/had such a strong devotion to Our Lady. Little Twilight Zonish to me.
My husband & I both said the same thing to each other: no mention of Jesus, Mary, or prayerful reflection, or even discussion with his spiritual adviser. Very, very disturbing. Elizabeth Scalia over at The Anchoress noticed similar things, as well. For anyone who has listened to Fr. Corapi speak even 2 or 3 times, the difference was noticeable and startling. Truly, my first reaction was a combination of fear (?) and sadness.
Prayer, prayer, and more prayer….
What is also sad is the way some people automatically assume that the woman in this has to be lying and making false accusations. Fr. Corapi gets the benefit of the assumption of innocence while she is tarred and feathered as a lying, manipulative, Satan-used female dog. Whatever happened to letting both sides have the presumption of innocence until proven guilty?
That video is quite creepy to say the least. This is a sad situation for Fr Corapi, for the Church, and for all involved.
My very first thought “All any of us can do is trust in our Good God” and know that “HIS Will” will be done. God knows the Truth of this situation so we place all our trust in HIM and not concern ourselves over any details”. Trust in God and pray always!
A few thoughts on this.
First, my disappointment and shock with the Bud and Bai Macfarlane case about five years or more back (the Mary Foundation) made me very leery of getting hung up on the messenger, if you get my drift. People in public Catholic ministry, whether laity or religious, are people, and people can and often do fall or have scandals, or get tired, etc. I try to take the good teaching and not canonize the person now, kwim?
Second, the thing that always and forever separates the saints from others, even saints working towards change in the church, is OBEDIENCE to the Church. Saints would speak up, and even challenge popes—but would continue to serve in the Church, would take any punishment handed out to them for speaking out humbly (even if that punishment was wholly unjust) and would continue to profess obedience and love to the Church, even if it meant being silent for a time.
The litmus test for holy people is this obedience, especially if they have been asked to be silent for a time and they refuse. This is why as a Catholic I wholly reject Medjugorge—the “seers” have been ORDERED time and again by their bishop and by the Vatican to be silent while the visions are investigated, and they refuse. That right there tells me this is not from God. Saints and seers are obedient. You know it by its fruits.
This behaviour marks all of the heretics—the vast majority of them were good-natured people who wanted to do right by the Lord, and allowed their sense of zeal to get in the way of obedience. “I shall not serve,” anyone?
So I say the same to Father Corapi. He was asked to be silent and wait out the investigation. He’s refused. So I will not be in any way supporting his new ministry, although I plan to pray for him, and have much affection and good will for him in my heart.
One of the fruits of the Holy Spirit is patience, and he is displaying a clear lack of it right now.
I am sad . But I feel that if Fr Corapi is innocent, he should take it as a cross , which faith he unceasingly preached. “For it is better to suffer for doing good , if suffering should be God’s will , than to suffer for doing evil….. ” (1 Peter 3)
If he is guilty, God who is our Lord is waiting to receive his repentance and to forgive him and bless him. Some are weak and repentance makes them strong
Once a priest always a priest.
I thought this was a good response: http://www.splendoroftruth.com/curtjester/2011/06/taking-his-marbles-and-going-home/
And I believe that given the 2 options of “quietly lie down and die or go on in ways that I am able to go on” that Christ chose the first.
Once a priest always a priest.
I thought this was a good response: http://www.splendoroftruth.com/curtjester/2011/06/taking-his-marbles-and-going-home/
And I believe that given the 2 options of “quietly lie down and die or go on in ways that I am able to go on” that Christ chose the first.
The horrible thing about addictions, such as the drug addiction Fr. Corapi has admitted he had, is that you are never “cured”. The addiction is always there tailing you, waiting for a weak moment. Relapses are common, spiritual conversion or no spiritual conversion, because it has a lot to do with your physiology and not just your will power or character. It’s a constant battle and you can never say you conquered it, only that you have been clean such and such amount of time. This latest chapter in John Corapi’s life has many red flags of relapse. In fact, for some time now I have noticed a change in him.
The other thing all of us have to remember is idolatry is immoral whether it’s idolized rock stars or Catholics speakers on the lecture circuit. It is not healthy for the person who is idolized and it is not healthy for us. But for some reason people seem to have an instinct to get drawn into a cult of personality. This is what happened with Fr. Marciel of the Legionnaris of Christ. I know Regnum Christi moms who still insist he is innocent. With Fr. Corapi we just don’t know what is true and what is not true about the investigations, whether he is innocent or guilty. We need to wait for the result of the Church’s investigation for that. But I do want to throw out just the possibility that John Corapi might not be mentally not stable right now. If that is true I hope someone gets him the help he needs and that he accepts it.
I am not familiar with the case or with the priest but it seems to me if he WAS that innocent, then nothing would’ve made him give up the priesthood. Did Jesus “give up the ship” just because the outcome would be very bad? No. If Father Corapi is TRULY innocent, he needs to stay a priest no matter what (give up the public service if you have to but remain a priest…heck become a cloistered monk if necessary).
I have watched bits and pieces of his show when it was broadcast, and he seems just a bit “creepy” to me and much too boisterous for my taste.
I haven’t read all of the comments here, but have read the information from Father Corapi posted elsewhere on the internet http://theblacksheepdog.wordpress.com and I don’t think he means he himself is leaving the priesthood. Under the circumstances like other priests dealing with the same alleged accusations, he has had his “priestly faculties” suspended. Sadly he is right, that in a secular court of law, anyone is innocent until proven guilty, but priests who have any kind of allegation brought against them are treated as guilty until proven innocent. Not right at all. The priests are just temporarily (or otherwise) banished from priestly life. I believe he’s innocent and I pray that God gives him (and all other innocent priests in the same situation) strength to deal with this immense cross he is being asked to shoulder.
Certainly it is possible to say The Enemy has not infiltrated the Church. Fr. Corapi is making a choice. I wonder at this. I wonder if he has not looked over the lives of MANY of the saints, including last century’s Padre Pio, who suffered greater false accusations and persecutions than Father is today. He endured all with patient subservience. He trusted God when he knew he could not trust the “process”, and so it is disturbing to notice in Fr. Corapi’s announcement his lack of mentioning trusting God at any point. HE has decided that the timeline will not work for him. HE has decided it won’t work out. I’m sorry, but we’re all in similar situations from time to time… things that are earthly impossible, but that’s where FAITH comes in. He could have been a better example, to be honest. God bless him.
If nothing else, for me this has been a very good reminder of how important it is to pray - and pray hard - for our priests!
I thought Jimmy Akin had interesting things to say, in particular about the name Fr. Corapi is now choosing to be known by:
http://www.ncregister.com/fr.-corapi-has-lost-it.html
Also, I was struck by reading this story I happened upon yesterday (copied verbatim from “The Deacon’s Bench Blog”):
“I was curious: what did St. Pio do? How did he respond to the accusations (which were later recanted)?
I found one answer in a biography, as recounted in the blog Te Deum:
After Vespers, Padre Raffaele summoned Pio to the friary parlor and read the decree received on June 11, 1931, without comment:
“Padre Pio is to be stripped of all faculties of his priestly ministry except the faculty to celebrate the Holy Mass, which he may continue to do provided it is done in private, within the walls of the friary, in the inner chapel, and not publicy in church”.
To that, Ruffin explains St. Pio’s initial reaction:
“God’s will be done,”…then he covered his eyes with his hands, lowered his head, and murmured, “The will of the authorities is the will of God.”
While this caused immense suffering for Pio, which was confided privately to his friend and former teacher, Padre Agostino, he did not complain or make objections, especially in a public way.
When I read Fr. Corapi’s staatement, it made me so sad. I missed his Lenten meditations, especially the Triduum talks. I pray that Mary will look after her son.
I read of an elderly priest who died recently, a broken man, after suffering the consequences of two false accusations. It seems that any priest can be gotten rid of by bringing an allegation against him.
I am pleased to see comments here maintain some sanity and are not the rants I have seen on other sites. Father Z askes that we have charity.
I have read of Pope Leo XIII’s vision that led to his composing the St. Michael Prayer. It is worth while to look it up.
We need to pray, pray, pray for all our priests.
From one brother priest to another, Fr. Z on Fr. Corapi…
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2011/06/about-fr-john-corapi-with-observations-about-our-times/
Regardless of your feelings on the matter, please pray for our priests.
Bizarre and strange. I’ve never seen anything like it.
All the comments about how the evil one is after Corapi remind of the defense that went on for decades of, Father Marcial Maciel, the founder of the Legionaries of Christ.
The Church allowed a sociopathic pedophile to found and run an order within the Catholic Church. This was not intentional but there was grave lack of judgment and accountability piled on top of cult like control. Beyond that mask was a sick man’s desire for power, control and esteem. It all “seemed” so good because he always preached about obedience to the Magisterium and everything seemed so right. The same that is said about Corapi was said about Maciel (in terms of bringing people to the Church) The Church was really burned by that one and perhaps has taken a different approach. The damage done was greater than any good that came out of the LC.
That said I do not know whether he is innocent or guilty. I only know that people can appear to do and say one thing and have something entirely different going on. It appears to me that Corapi needs attention and has some serious psychological issues at present. Clearly he has issues with needing power, control and esteem. He already has this black sheep dog autobiography almost written?????? After 3 months???
I do believe there are priests that are wrongly accused. I have always believed that Father Bruce Ritter the founder of Covenant House was wrongly accused but that is just my opinion.
I don’t have concerns about the Eucharist being abolished because of Corapi “being attacked” or leaving the priesthood. I think we give the devil too much credit sometimes when there are human issues going on.
Steph C wasn’t suggesting that we need the Eucharist is going to be abolished because of Corapi being attacked. She was suggesting that the priesthood is in a crisis, and if it continues to shrink, so will our access to the Eucharist. She had a beautiful idea to do a Novena to pray for the priesthood. I find Corapi’s handling of this to be very odd, but if he is falsely accused, there’s a part of me that can understand it. If I were falsely accused, I don’t know that I would take the higher road either. It would be nice if he handled things more like Padre Pio, but just because he’s handling it poorly doesn’t automatically mean he’s guilty. Like you said, we have no way of knowing for sure. However, he is accused by one adult woman of using drugs and having an inappropriate relationship with an adult woman. That is a far cry from what Maciel did. When children are involved, I can see treating someone as guilty till proven innocent. Otherwise, it’s unfair. And it doesn’t happen that way in any secular legal process. Yes, human beings have their issues and need to be held accountable. That doesn’t mean that the devil doesn’t try to attack. A spiritual attack doesn’t excuse the person who sins, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t real. The devil loves to attack the Church. It is his arch-enemy. He loves division. He even loves the division that happens on this forum. Anything that can weaken Christianity helps to advance his goals. We aren’t defenseless against his attacks, but we’re weak and it’s hard to take the high road sometimes.
You are right Claire that accusations against Corapi and Maciel’s evils are different but everything else is similiar. I think they have the same personality disorder and we need to be wary of the “cult of personality” and the problems that come with that. My level of concern is the same regardless of the specific evil committed.
I was not specifically referring to StephC’s comment regarding the priesthood. It was a general statement and opinion. In my opinion losing access to the Eucharist is not going to happen. I think praying for our priests is a very good idea.
One of the problems is that when a beloved teacher and leader says all the correct, orthodox things it is hard to believe that he doesn’t believe and live them with all his heart. It seems as if, since someone who is so orthodox knows and preaches the truth in a powerful way, he should be protected from falling into sin—or at least know better. Intellectually we know that isn’t the case, but emotionally, it can be devastating for some people when a leader they’ve come to believe is a bastion of truth and orthodoxy is found to have feet of clay. Having said that, I have no idea if Fr. Corapi is guilty of anything other than perhaps overreacting a bit. However, there is a difference between being presumed to be innocent until proven guilty and being absolutely innocent. We need to presume he is innocent; we don’t need to proclaim that he is absolutely innocent without any further investigation.
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