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Mass Distraction

Ask a Priest vol. 4

Q: “I have four children ages four and under. I desire to attend daily mass, but my one year old is very noisy. Is it wrong for me to sit in the narthex for the entire Mass and then go forward to receive communion? I make a habit of participating even if I am in not in the actual sanctuary, ie…kneeling, sitting, standing, saying all of the responses. I just can’t seem to justify taking my noisy child into mass and disrupting everyone else’s focus of worship.”

A: It sounds like your church doesn’t have a specific cry-room, and so you are using the narthex instead. This seems to be a good solution. Cry-rooms exist for the very reason you mention, and it’s a good reason. And it also sounds like the arrangement of your narthex doesn’t impede participation in the liturgy. I see no reason for you to have qualms of conscience in this case. In fact, I would guess that our Lord is deeply pleased by your desire to worship him and stay close to him in spite of practical obstacles. But you may want to let your priest know that you know what you’re doing.

Another possibility is to see if a different nearby parish has a cry-room. If so, you may want to go there for daily Mass once or twice, to see if you prefer cry-rooms to narthexes.

Your question indirectly brings up another issue: dealing with distractions at Mass. It’s a common challenge for moms of young kids. It seems like you have mastered it. Maybe some of our readers would like to share tactics or thoughts that have helped them in this area. I would just like to offer a couple ideas, food for thought for moms who get distracted at Mass.

The first thing is to remember that the Mass is an objective act of worship. Whether or not we feel God’s presence, whether or not we get carried away by the beauty of the liturgy, the Mass remains the perfect prayer. Christ himself, though the ordained priest, is the protagonist of every Mass. By uniting ourselves to him, our own prayer and self-offering is linked to his and takes on eternal value.

It’s easy – very easy – to forget this.  Our consumer-driven society tends to emphasize subjective experience (how we “feel” about things) over objective reality.  When we go to Mass, the primary thing is what really happens, not what we feel about it.

On the other hand, the Church does instruct us to strive for active, full, and conscious participation in the liturgy. This means we should make an effort to unite ourselves deeply to the heart of Christ, echoing in our hearts the attitude of total self-giving to the Father that motivated Jesus during his passion. 

The best way to do this is to pay attention to the words, symbols, and gestures of the liturgy itself. We can’t always concoct holy feelings, but we can always try to pay attention to the celebration. To do this, it helps to continually study the liturgy and our Catholic faith – the whole message of Christ is summed up in every Mass – and to be consistently working on one’s own personal prayer life (this keeps us tuned in to the Holy Spirit’s voice).

Kids climbing on (and over and under and around) the pews and clamoring for mom’s advice/assistance/affection can seem to be a worthy competitor for your attention. But not really. Remember, the very core of Christ’s life was an unswerving commitment to fulfilling his Father’s will.

Your being a good mom to those kids is an essential part of God’s will for your life. Patiently attending to their needs while you also humbly try to attend to the sacred mysteries, therefore, is the kind of multi-tasking that fits right in to the very essence of the Mass. Of course, this doesn’t mean that your patience won’t be tested. Nor does it mean that you should refrain from educating your children about how to behave at Mass (and giving them appropriate tools to help them do so).  But it does mean that the challenges of being a mom at Mass are actually part of God’s plan for your life, and simply remembering that can be a big encouragement.

[I have written more about active participation in Mass here.]

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I am also struggling with this, as two Sundays out of every month I am on my own with the kids (2,4,6).  Up until now, I simply stay home.  My just-turned 2 year old is VERY disruptive, and I cannot leave my children alone in the sanctuary in order to bring her out into the vestibule (the cry room in our church is NOT an option.  It is beyond horrible).  I would simply remain in the vestibule (glass doors into the sanctuary, so I can see, a speaker so I can hear), however, the lack of any seating makes this very difficult on me physically, and my two year old ends up running around and screeching, which is not the behavior I want her to associate with going to Mass. 

I am really not sure what I am suppose to be doing.  Do I go through the trouble of preparing myself and the children for Mass, only to have to leave before it is over?  I am so short-tempered that this always ends in me leaving Mass very frustrated and in a bad mood.  Do I stay home, watching the Mass on EWTN?  I want to be able to go, but it is just so difficult with the kids on my own.

 

Aw, it is tough shepherding children alone at Mass! I do not see missing obligitory days (ie. Sundays) over it, though. Perhaps you could chat with an usher and tell him that a couple Sundays a month you would need two chairs placed in the back just for Mass? The ushers at our parish are very militant about chairs for extra seating during Mass. They bring them out of nowhere as they are needed and take them away as soon as they are vacated! Helps keep the area clear for the congregation. In any case, just tell them that it is something that would be extremely helpful to you right now. Later, you might not need this! The two year-old will not be two forever! God is allowing you to be tested…I am sure you can think of creative, good ways to deal with this! Tough though…I have 3, 3 and under!!!

 

Fr. John, I appreciate your sensitivity to mothers who bring small children to Mass, and the distractions that we face, especially our concern about disturbing others. 

But, (sorry, you knew there was a but) as a priest, you may not be aware of how difficult it can be to take your children into cry rooms.  Maybe this is just my experience, but so many times the cry room is filled with people who don’t want to curb their children’s behavior and parents who are looking for a little social interaction.  Yes, I’ve tried to ignore them, but when their children are crawling all over my children and talking to me (or mine) while Mom smiles encouragingly in the background….I’d rather tough it out in the back of the church.

 

I’d also like to add, for the moms of many littles, that this season is really short.  I know that when you are in the thick of it, it seems like it will last forever, but it really won’t.

And I agree with Susie Lloyd, see if people can help you during Mass.  We have a lovely, unmarried 50ish lady at our parish that helps families with small children as best she can.

 

You’ve probably already looked into this, but maybe you can find a parish with a nursery during Sunday Mass. You can have your two-year old attend the nursery while you and the older children attended mass. I’ve used the nursery during the terrible twos with several of my kids, and it has been a real blessing.

 

Honestly, I wish more Catholic churches had childcare. I know the ideal is to have the whole family together during Mass, but when one parent is in the lobby the whole time with a crying baby or a chatty toddler, they’re not together anyway ... and they CERTAINLY aren’t together when Mom and Dad have to go to Mass in shifts.

Our parish has child care for toddlers during one Mass. It’s not perfect (especially as it’s earlier than I’d like to get up, LOL!), but I think it’s a good solution. My almost-3-year-old son is happy, our baby sits nicely with us during the Mass.

 

Father, I agree with Sooz that cry rooms are generally not great places to take kids. We have alternately called them the “room-where-kids-learn-to-be-bad-at-church”, the “crazy room” and the “room-for-anti-social-adults”. I’d rather hang out in a cold narthex. The times where I am compelled to enter a cry room (usually with a nursing baby) are great opportunities to offer up the suffering!

We have always taken all the children (now 5 of them) to the front and center of the church. We have found that distractions are reduced for them. They can actually see the priest and altar and even the youngest occasionally attend to what is going on by default. I will take misbehaving children out if they are becoming a distraction for others but rarely completely out of the church. We haunt the corners and alcoves and yes, the narthex. But we always bring them back as soon as possible. They need to get the message that we are not leaving.
Sitting up front is humbling. Things happen. I certainly don’t like to be so visible. But it does help over the long haul.

I’m not sure how I feel about child care at Mass. On the one hand, it sounds lovely for mom:). On the other, Father hits the nail on the head when he says that mothering even during Mass is part of God’s plan for our vocation. I tend to think that we could find occasional babysitting for a daily Mass or adoration but try our hardest to keep Sunday as a family Mass.

It does take courage to bring small children to Mass. It can be hard. Do it anyway. The dividends will pay out handsomely.

 

I think a solution is to tell the pastor. He can do some simple things. One, the priest at one parish I visited had very thoughtfully reserved the back pews for parents with young kids. Two, At another parish I know there is an old lady who helps a young mom. The priest could ask during announcement time if there are any parishioners who would like to sit with the young mom who is alone, during Mass and assist her. Three, he could announce that the cry room is also for worship and could parents please refrain from chatting, etc.
We’re a community - we should help each other!

 

Sometimes (NB I am not claiming all of the time) it is possible to alter the tone of the cry room.  If I need to use it (not too often, thankfully) I generally park as close to the front as possible.  Then proceed to maintain the correct postures as much as the situation allows (and squirming, restless nurslings often preclude this) and participate in the responses, prayers and singing fully.  Perhaps even a touch louder than I normally would.  smile  It can sometimes (again not always) nudge other parents into remembering why we’re all here at Mass to begin with…

 

4 kids under 4 is a big load to carry, especially at mass. One has to remember that mothers “live” a prayer.  To even attempt daily mass would be too overwhelming for me with 4 under 4.  I once tried adoration with a 7 month old. That didn’t work either. Jesus was calling me at time to be a mother, He knew I was a faithful Catholic. Our lives are full of seasons. We need to remember that. If we can’t attend daily mass now, maybe at another time when things are less hectic we can.

 

I agree, Joan.  Sometimes we have to place our desires behind what’s good for the children.  When I had four under six I spent a lot of time at playgrounds and in the childrens room at the library.  Now when I go to Daily Mass, I really appreciate it.  I’m grateful to be there.

 

My husband and I sit in the front pew - with out two children (2 and younger) - at Sunday Mass.  Yes, it is humbling when one cries.  But I couldn’t agree more with Melody that sitting front and center helps ALL of us pay attention to the Mass.  Fellow parishioners (and visiting priests) comment on how well the little ones pay attention.  I believe it is b/c we sit up front - - because I have taken nieces/nephews up front with us, who I have seen act out when they sit in the back. 
That being said, disruptions will still happen occasionally.  I am encouraged when other parishioners THANK me for bringing the children to daily Mass by myself (though I often doubt that I can handle this daunting task).  They love to see AND HEAR the children. 
Be confident!  Bring them and sit up front!
I’ve never belonged to a parish with a crying room, and I am just as happy for it.  We are all one parish family and better for it.  God bless.

 

Joan is right - four at 4&U is a handful for daily Mass.  Regarding childcare during Sunday Mass, I love my parish arrangement.  We have a nursery for young infants (though I never used it) and we have Little Children’s Church for preschoolers (2 1/2- 4).  Just when my daughters were going from cute baby snuggled in my arms to crazy toddlers, I signed them up for LIttle Children’s Church. They shared a Bible Story, had a craft related to the story, and sang songs while I attended Mass. On the occasion when LCC was closed, they were interested (sort-of) in “Big People Church”.  By the time they moved into Kindergarten CCE, I told them they were old enough to behave in Mass and exactly sort of behavior I expected.  (I don’t always get it, but they know what I expect.)

 

I have a question and I’m hoping to get some advice. I’m a new mom and my baby is only 6 months right now. I know that as she gets older, the issue of handling her at Sunday and daily Mass will be come more and more pertinent. My question is, how should I define the behavior that is ok in the sanctuary vs behavior I need to take her out for? Is it all about whether she is distracting others? For example, right now, she is very “babbly” - oohing and aaahing and squealing. She’s not misbehaving and its not unpleasant to listen to, but I know that it does distract others around me.

When should I take her out of the Church and when is it ok for her to stay with me?

 

Marie,
I used to try to get my little ones to nurse during the quietest times of Mass to counteract the natural urge to fill the silences with babble. My rule of thumb (although I am by no means an expert), is to head for the Narthax when I notice looks (not smiles, you know - *those* looks) from others around me. With my 4, it has always helped to sit up front where they can see, even when they were infants. I have also noticed that some Churches are better at absorbing noise than others. In our old parish, the slightest noise would be noticed by everyone - even the Pastor- and it was VERY quiet all the time. In my new parish, there is more carpet and I guess more background noise b/c I don’t notice my little ones’ noises quite so much. Do what feels best for you and your family. God gave these little guys the ability to make joyful noises for a reason, and I have always noticed more smiles than not when an infant starts cooing or continues to make singing noises after the Psalm is finished.

 

I am in the same situation with my 9 mo.  If they are happy babbles and coos, we stay.  If it is fussing that I can tell is going to progress to crying we go to the back of the church.  We have neither a cry-room or narthex.  Basically, I try to ensure that she doesn’t impede others’ ability to worship.

 

I hope it is okay to ask this here.  My 2 mo old wants to nurse during Masss frequently.  Do you think it is inappropriate to nurse at Mass?  We are closee to the front row.  I try to be as discreet as possible, but dont want to cause a problem for the priest or those around me.  Thank you

 

No I do not think it is wrong to nurse in Church as long as you are covered. I have nursed all my babies in Church. I am always a tad embarrassed but it is better than a screaming hungry baby. I use to try and nurse before mass but learned that did not stop the baby from wanting to nurse at mass. There is nothing wrong with nursing it is God’s gift to us and our baby and completelty natural.

 

Yes!  Nurse the baby! If you are ‘discrete’ there’s no need for a cover, because most people won’t even know what you’re doing.  Also,  Jesus was nursed.  Just be sure to wear nursing friendly clothing.

 

I nursed all 5 of my babies in church at one time or another.  It’s fine. Just be discreet. Nobody really ever realized what I was doing.

 

Very Intresting topic. Personally I do not like the cry room either. I feel it should be a place to teach your children how to behave but to many allow their children to run a muck. When I was in California the Church we attended had a cry room on Sunday we tried to avoid it. At daily mass it was a great place to teach the kids how to behave in mass without disturbing others. At the time I had 7 kids ages 16,12,8,5,4,3,1.
Then we moved to Idaho. The church we attend now is tiny no cry room no vestibule. Only the outside which in winter is not an option. I feel lucky because our priest is not bothered by misbehaving babies. I just says that they are praying in there own way. We always sit in the front 2 pews (the pews are so short we take up two). Of course when a baby or other child is really bad or screaming we take them to the back or out whatever fits the situation. My kids are not perfect in mass but I have tried to teach them how to behave. Today we have 10 kids 8 still at home and 3of them are 5years or younger. I have had days where I want to slither out of mass because I am so embarrased by a kid or two. I have felt lucky that people have reminded me that just being at mass with the kids is a prayer in itself. God knows our hearts he knows what we are trying to accomplish. Watching our kids and teaching them in mass is a prayer. So we should keep up the good work and fight the good fight.
On a side note I do see how childcare could be helpful so that we can pray but for me I prefer that my kids learn to behave and are in the Church with me for others that may be different

 

I am always amazed by the number of people who tell me how well-behaved my kids are during mass - because I see all the times they are not. This is to reassure other mothers - your kids behavior will bother you far more than anyone else.

I have nursed each of my children during mass - I just drape a quilt over my shoulder. Works fine as long as a toddler doesn’t lift up the blanket to play with the baby : )

Consistency is key - the same mass, the same time, the same pew (so people who don’t like kids can learn to sit elsewhere). When we get out of our routine, the kids make me pay in misbehavior.

 

My two year old chats all throughout the Mass.  We encourage him to pipe down, but he’s still a baby and still learning.  We’ve never experienced negativity from those around us.  I can count on one hand how many times I’ve had to take him to the back of the church since he was born.  My attitude is that Jesus said “let the children come to me”, and unless he’s really crying, he has a right to be there.  I think he’s well behaved (other than the chatter) because he’s so used to going with us.

 

Taking my 2.5 year old to Mass can be so terribly discouraging. We work so hard to keep her quiet and still, and we always take her out of the chapel when she begins to cry, but it seems like people go out of their way to make us feel like we shouldn’t be there. My husband and I love to worship Our Lord in the Mass, but these last few years have been rough. I always try to send encouraging smiles to other moms of small children - and I encourage everyone here to do the same.

 

One of the most marvelous blessings I’ve ever received at daily Mass (besides Jesus Himself!) was when I used to attend a daily school Mass with my then 3 children under 4.  The eighth grade teacher offered me TWO eighth grade girls to help with the kids!  They would help with the 2 “older” kids, while I tended to the baby and even was able to pay attention to the Mass.  I do try to get to know folks at daily Mass, and am so grateful when others offer to help out.


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