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There Be Forgiveness

Charlie Cox as St. Escriva

Have you seen There Be Dragons?

I haven’t, and a few reviews from people I respect have suggested it’s not that successful as a film.

One complaint I’ve heard frequently is that if you’re looking for a biopic of St. Escriva, you’ll be disappointed. Though his life and character are apparently treated with realism and sensitivity, the bulk of the story actually centers on his foil, and many seem to think that’s not the most interesting part of the story.

This review from Robert Royal renewed my interest in the film, though.

He sees the film as not about either man, but about how reconciliation occurs when society has gone through an upheaval such as that of the Spanish Civil War, where atrocities have been committed by fellow citizens against each other.

Along the way, the review teaches me how little I know about that period of time, and how much my sense of the Spanish Church is conditioned by a Monty Python sketch:

In English-speaking countries, Spanish Catholicism is often portrayed as corrupt, tied to an exploitative upper class, and led by a hierarchy that was more concerned about social privileges than preaching the Gospel. Only an ideologue would deny that there’s evidence of all this and more. Dragons sometimes bends over backward to concede that the Republican revolutionaries had a point in their anger against the Church.

In secular circles, that’s much exaggerated and taken for granted, but here’s a lesser-known side of the story. Some of the Spanish hierarchy may have been corrupt, but none of them abandoned their posts when the violence hit. Every bishop in Republican territory was killed, except two, who happened to be outside the country. In Madrid-Alcalá, 1,118 priests died; 279 in Barcelona; 327 in Valencia, between a quarter and a third of priests in just those cities.

This in addition to the slaughter of whole convents, cloisters, seminaries, religious houses containing people who, of course, had done nothing wrong. When John Paul II asked dioceses around the world to report on people martyred in the twentieth century in preparation for the third Christian millennium, about half the files—6,000 or so—sent to the Commission on New Martyrs were from Spain. Some have claimed Spanish priests were crucified, though there is no solid evidence.

We do know that Christians were, for the first time since the ancient Roman spectacles, thrown to wild animals, this time bulls in the corrida. And priests, in a macabre variation on bullfighting custom, had their ears cut off for trophies after being killed in the ring. The British historian Hugh Thomas, a fair judge, said of Spain, “At no time in the history of Europe, or even perhaps of the world, has so passionate a hatred of religion and all its works been shown.”

That history is not much explored in the film, but Royal says what is explored is relevant to today’s culture clashes in Western countries:

One element that emerges convincingly from the film is how much public reconciliation depends on private forgiveness. There’s been a whole spate of forgiveness studies in recent years in psychological circles, arguing the benefits of forgiving, letting go, and moving on. Perhaps so, but, as we know, most real forgiveness depends on knowing you have things yourself to be forgiven for, and that emerges most forcefully in religious, not secular, contexts.

Royal doesn’t deny the film’s weaknesses, but seems to find in it a lesson about today’s culture wars:

The title There Be Dragons is drawn from the old maps of the world that suggested there were monsters in distant, as yet unexplored regions. The film applies the phrase to the dragons within every person, of whatever political stripe or religious persuasion. It “works” in the end because the youthful figure of the saint seems really to have deeply embraced the truth that the Church must be the Church of all the people and a source of reconciliation, especially where the divisions run deep among people related to one another. As a religious argument, it is consummate sense. In political terms, the picture is much cloudier and it is perhaps not by chance that Manolo, the old Republican opportunist, who is a kind of foil to José Maria in Dragons, only finds forgiveness and peace for his misdeeds decades later—on his deathbed.


So now I again want to see it.

Have you seen There Be Dragons? What did you think?
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There be Dragons was powerful.  Bottom line- we as American Catholics have grown so accustom to the movie industry trashing our Priests that we even put up with it personally in the name of a “good movie”.  Wrong!  Here is a movie that is a positive, heroic, portrayal of a priest, a movie promoted mostly by private buy outs.  This movie actually lead to the conversion of one of the stars.  I think you should judge by the fruits.
I will chew on this movie for weeks.  St Josemaria Escriva, pray for us.

 

Can someone just explain the title to me, please? As a grammarian, it’s driving me crazy! Why not “There ARE Dragons”, “There WILL BE Dragons”?

 

Ana, here’s a little background on the expression “Here be dragons.”  Apparently it’s one of those things we “know” that aren’t so….

http://www.maphist.nl/extra/herebedragons.html

 

Ana, “there be” (as opposed to “there are”) is the present subjunctive conjugation of the verb “to be.” Although it’s a historical phrase, it is also proper usage in that context. As a grammarian myself, I have to point that out because so few people use the subjunctive correctly in English these days (for example, using the past subjunctive properly, “If I were a millionaire” and not “If I was a millionaire,” because it is hypothetical; I am not, nor was I ever, a millionaire wink ).

 

Ana ~ The title reflects that way the language was spoken in ancient times—> when peoples believed in monsters and dragons. Just like Yoda-speak, it doesn’t sound correct to us because it’s not how we normally speak today.

 

Well, this is a very hot topic in my circles.  My husband and I saw the movie last Saturday and thought it was awful.  St. Josemaria is one of my absolute favorite saints, so I think I had pretty high expectations going into it. 

The portrayal of St. Josemaria was quite good, but he seemed to be merely a foil to the whole “Manolo” character, which was too big and distracting.  The fictional part just didn’t work: the dialogue was contrived, the pace was slow, and the approach to the violence was of the typical Hollywood variety.  Bleh.

Roland Joffe—as I understand it—was both fascinated and impressed by St. Josemaria and really wanted to do this movie.  He would have been much better served if he had based his script on the excellent John Coverdale book: “Uncommon Faith,” which is a thrilling and beautiful story about St. Josemaria and the beginning of Opus Dei during a particularly brutal time for the Catholic Church in Spain.

 

Funny, I wrote a review for my own blog this morning. While I feel it was not Joffe’s best offering, I too came away with the strong message of forgiveness. Saint Josemaria Escriva, and the Church are both treated with great respect and I felt Escriva’s storyline was the strongest aspect of the film. That may be because his story was a truer account and that of the parallel character was pure fiction. Anyway, I was glad we saw it. It’s definitely Netflix worthy smile

 

The movie isn’t about St. Josemaria or Opus Dei.  It is about forgiveness.  Those who go looking for a feel good story about a saint will be disappointed. Personally, I loved it. For me it was a powerful reminder that we all have dragons-even those people we believe to be holy—and forgiveness is always waiting for us right up to our last breath.  Three days later I am still thinking about the movie and asking for forgivness for all those times I was selfish and thought I was the only one with dragons.

 

One of the most powerful parts of the film for me was when Manolo said his father had more power and money, but Josemaria had more father.  The few things that St.  Josemaria says in the movie are packed with meaning, so that his presence is strong even though the movie doesn’t center on him.  AS with the Passion of the Chrsit, I was surprised to see a few small children in the theatre. The personal,intimate nature of the violence is too confusing for children under 13, IMO.

 

It’s an EXCELLENT movie!! :D I got to see it early because my husband was doing a little consulting work promoting it among local Catholic organizations. wink I think some criticism has come from the fact that expectations were a bit off; they said right from the start that it was *not* going to be a biography of St. Josemaria, nor a “Catholic film” per se - but rather a movie about certain abstract (though very Christian) themes, set in the Spanish Civil War (incidentally, having studied that period, it was a very historically-accurate depiction). I think it is a wonderful portrayal of St. Josemaria and Opus Dei, and also a very good story that will appeal to many people (not only Catholics) and bring some Christian themes into our culture subtly. Everyone I know has greatly enjoyed it, but then my husband had already given them the spiel so they knew what this movie was and wasn’t.

 

I saw “And There Be Dragons” last weekend. I was actually quite impressed with the film. Yes, it was told through the eyes of the broken man. But I thought it was an ingenious way to show St. Josemaria’s light shining through the darkness. And I really thought the movie focussed on the saint despite being told through Manolo. I went alone, and was glad I didn’t bring my 13-year old daughter. She’s a sensitive girl who would have had nightmares afterwards. It doesn’t hold back on the harshness of war. (She hasn’t seen all of the Passion yet either). Personally, I was thrilled this major motion picture was so pro-Catholic. I will see it again.

 

Just been hearing about this movie-looks like something worth checking out!

 

I saw the movie last week.  I was expecting a movie about Opus Dei..or a biographical movie about St. Josemaria.  It wasn’t.  Now was it a movie about the Spanish civil war.  However, once I was able to set my preconceived notions aside and just watch the movie, I really enjoyed it.  I would see it again (and we don’t go to movies often).  It’s basically the story about 2 boyhood friends (St. Josemaria being one) whose lives go in very different directions based on the choices they made…yet they keep crossing paths at key moments.  I would highly recommend the movie.  I am curious to know if the other main character (St.  Josemaria’s boyhood friend) really existed or was he put there to tell more of a historical fiction type of story.  Does anyone know?  I was planning to look into that.

 

We went to the movie with a group from our parish. I was concerned about possible violence in a war movie. But Josemaria’s constant response to events of life was love, and acceptance of God’s will. A powerful experience.

 

Saw it last night- loved it. Highly recommended.


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